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From: Brandon Williams <bmwill@google.com>
To: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, bturner@atlassian.com,
	git@jeffhostetler.com, gitster@pobox.com,
	jonathantanmy@google.com, peff@peff.net, sbeller@google.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 10/10] ssh: introduce a 'simple' ssh variant
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2017 10:18:12 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171016171812.GA4487@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171003214206.GY19555@aiede.mtv.corp.google.com>

On 10/03, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Brandon Williams wrote:
> 
> > When using the 'ssh' transport, the '-o' option is used to specify an
> > environment variable which should be set on the remote end.  This allows
> > git to send additional information when contacting the server,
> > requesting the use of a different protocol version via the
> > 'GIT_PROTOCOL' environment variable like so: "-o SendEnv=GIT_PROTOCOL"
> >
> > Unfortunately not all ssh variants support the sending of environment
> > variables to the remote end.  To account for this, only use the '-o'
> > option for ssh variants which are OpenSSH compliant.  This is done by
> > checking that the basename of the ssh command is 'ssh' or the ssh
> > variant is overridden to be 'ssh' (via the ssh.variant config).
> 
> This also affects -p (port), right?

Yeah I'll add a comment in the commit msg indicating that options like
-p and -4 -6 are are only supported by some variants.

> 
> What happens if I specify a ssh://host:port/path URL and the SSH
> implementation is of 'simple' type?

The port would only be sent if your ssh command supported it.

> 
> > Previously if an ssh command's basename wasn't 'plink' or
> 
> Git's commit messages use the present tense to describe the current
> state of the code, so this is "Currently". :)

I'll fix this :)

> 
> > 'tortoiseplink' git assumed that the command was an OpenSSH variant.
> > Since user configured ssh commands may not be OpenSSH compliant, tighten
> > this constraint and assume a variant of 'simple' if the basename of the
> > command doesn't match the variants known to git.  The new ssh variant
> > 'simple' will only have the host and command to execute ([username@]host
> > command) passed as parameters to the ssh command.
> >
> > Update the Documentation to better reflect the command-line options sent
> > to ssh commands based on their variant.
> >
> > Reported-by: Jeffrey Yasskin <jyasskin@google.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Brandon Williams <bmwill@google.com>
> 
> Thanks for working on this.
> 
> For background, the GIT_SSH implementation that motivated this is
> https://github.com/travis-ci/dpl/blob/6c3fddfda1f2a85944c544446b068bac0a77c049/lib/dpl/provider.rb#L215,
> which does not support -p or -4/-6, either.
> 
> > ---
> >  Documentation/config.txt |  27 ++++++++++--
> >  Documentation/git.txt    |   9 ++--
> >  connect.c                | 107 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++---------------------
> >  t/t5601-clone.sh         |   9 ++--
> >  t/t5700-protocol-v1.sh   |   2 +
> >  5 files changed, 95 insertions(+), 59 deletions(-)
> [...]
> > --- a/connect.c
> > +++ b/connect.c
> > @@ -776,37 +776,44 @@ static const char *get_ssh_command(void)
> [...]
> > +static enum ssh_variant determine_ssh_variant(const char *ssh_command,
> > +					      int is_cmdline)
> [...]
> > -	if (!strcasecmp(variant, "plink") ||
> > -	    !strcasecmp(variant, "plink.exe"))
> > -		*port_option = 'P';
> > +	if (!strcasecmp(variant, "ssh"))
> > +		ssh_variant = VARIANT_SSH;
> 
> Could this handle ssh.exe, too?

Yeah I'll add the additional comparison.

> 
> [...]
> > --- a/t/t5601-clone.sh
> > +++ b/t/t5601-clone.sh
> 
> Can this get tests for the new defaulting behavior?  E.g.
> 
>  - default is "simple"
>  - how "simple" treats an ssh://host:port/path URL
>  - how "simple" treats ipv4/ipv6 switching
>  - ssh defaults to "ssh"
>  - if GIT_SSH=ssh, can set ssh.variant to "simple" to force the "simple"
>    mode

I'll look to adding a few more tests.

> 
> One other worry: this (intentionally) changes the behavior of a
> previously-working GIT_SSH=ssh-wrapper that wants to support
> OpenSSH-style options but does not declare ssh.variant=ssh.  When
> discovering this change, what should the author of such an ssh-wrapper
> do?
> 
> They could instruct their users to set ssh.variant or GIT_SSH_VARIANT
> to "ssh", but then they are at the mercy of future additional options
> supported by OpenSSH we may want to start using in the future (e.g.,
> maybe we will start passing "--" to separate options from the
> hostname).  So this is not a futureproof option for them.
> 
> They could take the new default behavior or instruct their users to
> set ssh.variant or GIT_SSH_VARIANT to "simple", but then they lose
> support for handling alternate ports, ipv4/ipv6, and specifying -o
> SendEnv to propagate GIT_PROTOCOL or other envvars.  They can handle
> GIT_PROTOCOL propagation manually, but losing port support seems like
> a heavy cost.
> 
> They could send a patch to define yet another variant that is
> forward-compatible, for example using an interface similar to what
> git-credential(1) uses.  Then they can set GIT_SSH to their
> OpenSSH-style helper and GIT_FANCY_NEW_SSH to their more modern
> helper, so that old Git versions could use GIT_SSH and new Git
> versions could use GIT_FANCY_NEW_SSH.  This might be their best
> option.  It feels odd to say that their only good way forward is to
> send a patch, but on the other hand someone with such an itch is
> likely to be in the best position to define an appropriate interface.
> 
> They could send a documentation patch to make more promises about the
> commandline used in OpenSSH mode: e.g. setting a rule in advance about
> which options can take an argument so that they can properly parse an
> OpenSSH command line in a future-compatible way.
> 
> Or they could send a patch to allow passing the port in "simple"
> mode, for example using an environment variable.
> 
> Am I missing another option?  What advice do we give to this person?
> 
> Thanks,
> Jonathan

-- 
Brandon Williams

  reply	other threads:[~2017-10-16 17:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 161+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-13 21:54 [PATCH 0/8] protocol transition Brandon Williams
2017-09-13 21:54 ` [PATCH 1/8] pkt-line: add packet_write function Brandon Williams
2017-09-13 21:54 ` [PATCH 2/8] protocol: introduce protocol extention mechanisms Brandon Williams
2017-09-13 22:27   ` Stefan Beller
2017-09-18 17:02     ` Brandon Williams
2017-09-18 18:34       ` Stefan Beller
2017-09-18 19:58         ` Brandon Williams
2017-09-18 20:06           ` Stefan Beller
2017-09-13 21:54 ` [PATCH 3/8] daemon: recognize hidden request arguments Brandon Williams
2017-09-13 22:31   ` Stefan Beller
2017-09-18 16:56     ` Brandon Williams
2017-09-21  0:24   ` Jonathan Tan
2017-09-21  0:31     ` Jonathan Tan
2017-09-21 21:55       ` Brandon Williams
2017-09-13 21:54 ` [PATCH 4/8] upload-pack, receive-pack: introduce protocol version 1 Brandon Williams
2017-09-13 21:54 ` [PATCH 5/8] connect: teach client to recognize v1 server response Brandon Williams
2017-09-13 21:54 ` [PATCH 6/8] connect: tell server that the client understands v1 Brandon Williams
2017-09-13 21:54 ` [PATCH 7/8] http: " Brandon Williams
2017-09-13 21:54 ` [PATCH 8/8] i5700: add interop test for protocol transition Brandon Williams
2017-09-20 18:48 ` [PATCH 1.5/8] connect: die when a capability line comes after a ref Brandon Williams
2017-09-20 19:14   ` Jeff King
2017-09-20 20:06     ` Brandon Williams
2017-09-20 20:48       ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-09-21  3:02       ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-21 20:45       ` [PATCH] connect: in ref advertisement, shallows are last Jonathan Tan
2017-09-21 23:45         ` [PATCH v2] " Jonathan Tan
2017-09-22  0:00           ` Brandon Williams
2017-09-22  0:08             ` [PATCH v3] " Jonathan Tan
2017-09-22  1:06               ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-22  1:39                 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-22 16:45                   ` Brandon Williams
2017-09-22 20:15                     ` [PATCH v4] " Jonathan Tan
2017-09-22 21:01                       ` Brandon Williams
2017-09-22 22:16                         ` Jonathan Tan
2017-09-24  0:52                       ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-26 18:21         ` [PATCH v5] " Jonathan Tan
2017-09-26 18:31           ` Brandon Williams
2017-09-26 23:56 ` [PATCH v2 0/9] protocol transition Brandon Williams
2017-09-26 23:56   ` [PATCH v2 1/9] connect: in ref advertisement, shallows are last Brandon Williams
2017-09-26 23:56   ` [PATCH v2 2/9] pkt-line: add packet_write function Brandon Williams
2017-09-26 23:56   ` [PATCH v2 3/9] protocol: introduce protocol extention mechanisms Brandon Williams
2017-09-27  5:17     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-27 11:23       ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-29 21:20         ` Brandon Williams
2017-09-28 21:58       ` Brandon Williams
2017-09-27  6:30     ` Stefan Beller
2017-09-28 21:04       ` Brandon Williams
2017-09-26 23:56   ` [PATCH v2 4/9] daemon: recognize hidden request arguments Brandon Williams
2017-09-27  5:20     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-27 21:22       ` Brandon Williams
2017-09-28 16:57         ` Brandon Williams
2017-09-26 23:56   ` [PATCH v2 5/9] upload-pack, receive-pack: introduce protocol version 1 Brandon Williams
2017-09-27  5:23     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-27 21:29       ` Brandon Williams
2017-09-26 23:56   ` [PATCH v2 6/9] connect: teach client to recognize v1 server response Brandon Williams
2017-09-27  1:07     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-27 17:34       ` Brandon Williams
2017-09-27  5:29     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-28 22:08       ` Brandon Williams
2017-09-26 23:56   ` [PATCH v2 7/9] connect: tell server that the client understands v1 Brandon Williams
2017-09-27  6:21     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-27  6:29       ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-29 21:32         ` Brandon Williams
2017-09-28 22:20       ` Brandon Williams
2017-09-26 23:56   ` [PATCH v2 8/9] http: " Brandon Williams
2017-09-27  6:24     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-27 21:36       ` Brandon Williams
2017-09-26 23:56   ` [PATCH v2 9/9] i5700: add interop test for protocol transition Brandon Williams
2017-10-03 20:14   ` [PATCH v3 00/10] " Brandon Williams
2017-10-03 20:14     ` [PATCH v3 01/10] connect: in ref advertisement, shallows are last Brandon Williams
2017-10-10 18:14       ` Jonathan Tan
2017-10-03 20:14     ` [PATCH v3 02/10] pkt-line: add packet_write function Brandon Williams
2017-10-10 18:15       ` Jonathan Tan
2017-10-03 20:15     ` [PATCH v3 03/10] protocol: introduce protocol extention mechanisms Brandon Williams
2017-10-06  9:09       ` Simon Ruderich
2017-10-06  9:40         ` Junio C Hamano
2017-10-06 11:11           ` Martin Ågren
2017-10-06 12:09             ` Junio C Hamano
2017-10-06 19:42               ` Martin Ågren
2017-10-06 20:27                 ` Stefan Beller
2017-10-08 14:24                   ` Martin Ågren
2017-10-10 21:00             ` Brandon Williams
2017-10-10 21:17               ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-10-10 21:32                 ` Stefan Beller
2017-10-11  0:39                 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-10-13 22:46                 ` Brandon Williams
2017-10-09  4:05           ` Martin Ågren
2017-10-10 19:51       ` Jonathan Tan
2017-10-03 20:15     ` [PATCH v3 04/10] daemon: recognize hidden request arguments Brandon Williams
2017-10-10 18:24       ` Jonathan Tan
2017-10-13 22:04         ` Brandon Williams
2017-10-03 20:15     ` [PATCH v3 05/10] upload-pack, receive-pack: introduce protocol version 1 Brandon Williams
2017-10-10 18:28       ` Jonathan Tan
2017-10-13 22:18         ` Brandon Williams
2017-10-03 20:15     ` [PATCH v3 06/10] connect: teach client to recognize v1 server response Brandon Williams
2017-10-03 20:15     ` [PATCH v3 07/10] connect: tell server that the client understands v1 Brandon Williams
2017-10-10 18:30       ` Jonathan Tan
2017-10-13 22:56         ` Brandon Williams
2017-10-03 20:15     ` [PATCH v3 08/10] http: " Brandon Williams
2017-10-03 20:15     ` [PATCH v3 09/10] i5700: add interop test for protocol transition Brandon Williams
2017-10-03 20:15     ` [PATCH v3 10/10] ssh: introduce a 'simple' ssh variant Brandon Williams
2017-10-03 21:42       ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-10-16 17:18         ` Brandon Williams [this message]
2017-10-23 21:28           ` [PATCH 0/5] Coping with unrecognized ssh wrapper scripts in GIT_SSH Jonathan Nieder
2017-10-23 21:29             ` [PATCH 1/5] connect: split git:// setup into a separate function Jonathan Nieder
2017-10-23 22:16               ` Stefan Beller
2017-10-24  0:09                 ` [WIP PATCH] diff: add option to ignore whitespaces for move detection only Stefan Beller
2017-10-24 18:48                   ` Brandon Williams
2017-10-25  1:25                     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-10-25  1:26                       ` Junio C Hamano
2017-10-25 18:58                         ` Brandon Williams
2017-10-24  1:54                 ` [PATCH 1/5] connect: split git:// setup into a separate function Junio C Hamano
2017-10-24  2:52                   ` Stefan Beller
2017-10-23 21:30             ` [PATCH 2/5] connect: split ssh command line options into " Jonathan Nieder
2017-10-23 21:48               ` Stefan Beller
2017-10-23 21:31             ` [PATCH 3/5] ssh: 'auto' variant to select between 'ssh' and 'simple' Jonathan Nieder
2017-10-23 22:19               ` Jonathan Tan
2017-10-23 22:43                 ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-10-23 22:51                   ` Brandon Williams
2017-10-23 22:57                     ` Jonathan Tan
2017-10-23 23:16                       ` [PATCH v2 0/5] Coping with unrecognized ssh wrapper scripts in GIT_SSH Jonathan Nieder
2017-10-23 23:17                         ` [PATCH 1/5] connect: split git:// setup into a separate function Jonathan Nieder
2017-10-24  1:44                           ` Junio C Hamano
2017-11-15 20:25                             ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-11-17  1:12                               ` Junio C Hamano
2017-10-23 23:17                         ` [PATCH 2/5] connect: split ssh command line options into " Jonathan Nieder
2017-10-24  2:01                           ` Junio C Hamano
2017-10-23 23:18                         ` [PATCH 3/5] ssh: 'auto' variant to select between 'ssh' and 'simple' Jonathan Nieder
2017-10-23 23:27                           ` Brandon Williams
2017-10-23 23:33                             ` Stefan Beller
2017-10-23 23:19                         ` [PATCH 4/5] ssh: 'simple' variant does not support -4/-6 Jonathan Nieder
2017-10-23 23:19                         ` [PATCH 5/5] ssh: 'simple' variant does not support --port Jonathan Nieder
2017-10-24  2:22                         ` [PATCH v2 0/5] Coping with unrecognized ssh wrapper scripts in GIT_SSH Junio C Hamano
2017-10-23 23:12                     ` [PATCH 3/5] ssh: 'auto' variant to select between 'ssh' and 'simple' Jonathan Nieder
2017-10-23 22:33               ` Stefan Beller
2017-10-23 22:54                 ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-10-24  2:16               ` Junio C Hamano
2017-10-25 12:51               ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-10-25 16:18                 ` Stefan Beller
2017-10-25 16:32                   ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-10-30  0:40                     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-10-30 12:37                       ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-10-23 21:32             ` [PATCH 4/5] ssh: 'simple' variant does not support -4/-6 Jonathan Nieder
2017-10-23 21:33             ` [PATCH 5/5] ssh: 'simple' variant does not support --port Jonathan Nieder
2017-10-23 22:37               ` Stefan Beller
2017-10-04  6:20     ` [PATCH v3 00/10] protocol transition Junio C Hamano
2017-10-10 19:39     ` [PATCH] Documentation: document Extra Parameters Jonathan Tan
2017-10-13 22:26       ` Brandon Williams
2017-10-16 17:55     ` [PATCH v4 00/11] protocol transition Brandon Williams
2017-10-16 17:55       ` [PATCH v4 01/11] connect: in ref advertisement, shallows are last Brandon Williams
2017-10-16 17:55       ` [PATCH v4 02/11] pkt-line: add packet_write function Brandon Williams
2017-10-16 17:55       ` [PATCH v4 03/11] protocol: introduce protocol extension mechanisms Brandon Williams
2017-10-16 21:25         ` Kevin Daudt
2017-10-16 17:55       ` [PATCH v4 04/11] daemon: recognize hidden request arguments Brandon Williams
2017-10-16 17:55       ` [PATCH v4 05/11] upload-pack, receive-pack: introduce protocol version 1 Brandon Williams
2017-10-16 17:55       ` [PATCH v4 06/11] connect: teach client to recognize v1 server response Brandon Williams
2017-10-16 17:55       ` [PATCH v4 07/11] connect: tell server that the client understands v1 Brandon Williams
2017-10-16 17:55       ` [PATCH v4 08/11] http: " Brandon Williams
2017-10-16 17:55       ` [PATCH v4 09/11] i5700: add interop test for protocol transition Brandon Williams
2017-10-16 17:55       ` [PATCH v4 10/11] ssh: introduce a 'simple' ssh variant Brandon Williams
2017-10-16 17:55       ` [PATCH v4 11/11] Documentation: document Extra Parameters Brandon Williams

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