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From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: Johannes Sixt <j6t@kdbg.org>
Cc: "Simon Ruderich" <simon@ruderich.org>,
	"Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>,
	"Johannes Schindelin" <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>,
	"René Scharfe" <l.s.r@web.de>, "Git List" <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Ralf Thielow" <ralf.thielow@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Improved error handling (Was: [PATCH 1/2] sequencer: factor out rewrite_file())
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2017 09:54:28 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171224145427.GG23648@sigill.intra.peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c50ac174-15bd-60bc-490c-d231e3eb501d@kdbg.org>

On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 10:01:45AM +0100, Johannes Sixt wrote:

> > Yeah, I have mixed feelings on that. I think it does make the control
> > flow less clear. At the same time, what I found was that handlers like
> > die/ignore/warn were the thing that gave the most reduction in
> > complexity in the callers.
> 
> Would you not consider switching over to C++? With exceptions, you get the
> error context without cluttering the API. (Did I mention that
> librarification would become a breeze? Do not die in library routines: not a
> problem anymore, just catch the exception. die_on_error parameters? Not
> needed anymore. Not to mention that resource leaks would be much, MUCH
> simpler to treat.)

I threw this email on my todo pile since I was traveling when it came,
but I think it deserves a response (albeit quite late).

It's been a long while since I've done any serious C++, but I did really
like the RAII pattern coupled with exceptions. That said, I think it's
dangerous to do it half-way, and especially to retrofit an existing code
base. It introduces a whole new control-flow pattern that is invisible
to the existing code, so you're going to get leaks and variables in
unexpected states whenever you see an exception.

I also suspect there'd be a fair bit of in converting the existing code
to something that actually compiles as C++.

So if we were starting the project from scratch and thinking about using
C++ with RAII and exceptions, sure, that's something I'd entertain[1]
(and maybe even Linus has softened on his opinion of C++ these days ;) ).
But at this point, it doesn't seem like the tradeoff for switching is
there.

-Peff

[1] I'd also consider Rust, though I'm not too experienced with it
    myself.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-12-24 14:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-31  9:54 [PATCH 1/2] sequencer: factor out rewrite_file() René Scharfe
2017-10-31  9:58 ` [PATCH 2/2] sequencer: use O_TRUNC to truncate files René Scharfe
2017-10-31 16:34   ` Kevin Daudt
2017-11-01 15:34   ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-10-31 16:33 ` [PATCH 1/2] sequencer: factor out rewrite_file() Kevin Daudt
2017-11-01  6:06   ` Kevin Daudt
2017-11-01 11:10 ` Simon Ruderich
2017-11-01 13:00   ` René Scharfe
2017-11-01 14:44     ` [PATCH 1/2] wrapper.c: consistently quote filenames in error messages Simon Ruderich
2017-11-02  4:40       ` Junio C Hamano
2017-11-02  5:16         ` Junio C Hamano
2017-11-02 10:20           ` Simon Ruderich
2017-11-03  1:47             ` Junio C Hamano
2017-11-01 14:45     ` [PATCH 2/2] sequencer.c: check return value of close() in rewrite_file() Simon Ruderich
2017-11-01 17:09       ` René Scharfe
2017-11-01 15:33 ` [PATCH 1/2] sequencer: factor out rewrite_file() Johannes Schindelin
2017-11-01 19:47 ` Jeff King
2017-11-01 21:46   ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-11-01 22:16     ` Jeff King
2017-11-03 10:32       ` Simon Ruderich
2017-11-03 13:44         ` Junio C Hamano
2017-11-03 19:13           ` Jeff King
2017-11-04  9:05             ` René Scharfe
2017-11-04  9:35               ` Jeff King
2017-11-04 18:36             ` Simon Ruderich
2017-11-05  2:07               ` Jeff King
2017-11-06 16:13                 ` Improved error handling (Was: [PATCH 1/2] sequencer: factor out rewrite_file()) Simon Ruderich
2017-11-16 10:36                   ` Simon Ruderich
2017-11-17 22:33                   ` Jeff King
2017-11-18  9:01                     ` Johannes Sixt
2017-12-24 14:54                       ` Jeff King [this message]
2017-12-24 15:45                         ` Randall S. Becker
2017-12-25 10:28                         ` Johannes Sixt
2017-11-03 14:46         ` [PATCH 1/2] sequencer: factor out rewrite_file() Johannes Schindelin
2017-11-03 18:57           ` Jeff King

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