From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS31976 209.132.180.0/23 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.0 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A0B41F404 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2018 19:44:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1730219AbeHMW2Q (ORCPT ); Mon, 13 Aug 2018 18:28:16 -0400 Received: from cloud.peff.net ([104.130.231.41]:53646 "HELO cloud.peff.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1729990AbeHMW2Q (ORCPT ); Mon, 13 Aug 2018 18:28:16 -0400 Received: (qmail 13355 invoked by uid 109); 13 Aug 2018 19:44:37 -0000 Received: from Unknown (HELO peff.net) (10.0.1.2) by cloud.peff.net (qpsmtpd/0.94) with SMTP; Mon, 13 Aug 2018 19:44:37 +0000 Authentication-Results: cloud.peff.net; auth=none Received: (qmail 13048 invoked by uid 111); 13 Aug 2018 19:44:41 -0000 Received: from sigill.intra.peff.net (HELO sigill.intra.peff.net) (10.0.0.7) by peff.net (qpsmtpd/0.94) with (ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 encrypted) SMTP; Mon, 13 Aug 2018 15:44:41 -0400 Authentication-Results: peff.net; auth=none Received: by sigill.intra.peff.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 13 Aug 2018 15:44:35 -0400 Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 15:44:35 -0400 From: Jeff King To: =?utf-8?B?w4Z2YXIgQXJuZmrDtnLDsA==?= Bjarmason Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Derrick Stolee , Junio C Hamano , =?utf-8?B?Tmd1eeG7hW4gVGjDoWkgTmfhu41j?= Duy Subject: Re: Contributor Summit planning Message-ID: <20180813194435.GD10013@sigill.intra.peff.net> References: <20180813163108.GA6731@sigill.intra.peff.net> <87h8jyrtj6.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <87h8jyrtj6.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com> Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 08:49:33PM +0200, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: > * I think we should tread carefully when it comes to say some form of > remote A/V participation open to the Internet. > > It was fine to have Dscho on a chair, but it would be quite different > if this were say streamed on YouTube and everyone felt like they were > on stage the whole time, and if offhand comments / jokes etc. were > recorded. > > I'm not categorically against that, it's just something to think > carefully about. Maybe if there's demand for it we could dedicate > some time slot to that. Interesting points. I had in mind that the "invite list" for remote would be the same as for in-person. I also am not categorically against some kind of wider output for part of event, but I do think the casual and intimate nature is most of what makes the event useful. > * Re the second half of "Not everyone can travel or can afford to do > so" from Derrick, there's been travel sponsorships in past years. Yes, and I think we should continue with that offer. That's mostly been paid out from project funds in past years, but I suspect we could dig up sponsorship specific to the event if we had to. > [...] > Or would those companies be OK with trusting that some 20-ish of us > can hold our tongues for one day and not ruin the surprise? Also good points. Obviously it's up to whoever is trying to keep their secret what they want to do, but my opinion is that it's reasonable to talk about things the day before. I really enjoyed in one of the early years (Berlin 2013, I think) when Michael Haggerty gave two talks on git-imerge: one to the general population that might be interested in using it, and one to developers that really went into detail on the theory of how it worked. Another option I know we've discussed is having the contributor summit the day _after_ the main conference. That really complicates the logistics, though, because usually we piggy-back on the main event space, which we already have available the day before for main-conference setup and for training. I think it would also conflict with people wanting to go to FOSDEM on the following day. But I'll mention it to the folks organizing for this year to see if we can work something out. Secrets aside, I think it would be fun to have a session discussing all of the stuff we just heard about the day before. ;) -Peff