From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS31976 209.132.180.0/23 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.9 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 936151F404 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 03:20:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1727469AbeH3HUH (ORCPT ); Thu, 30 Aug 2018 03:20:07 -0400 Received: from cloud.peff.net ([104.130.231.41]:33422 "HELO cloud.peff.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1727305AbeH3HUH (ORCPT ); Thu, 30 Aug 2018 03:20:07 -0400 Received: (qmail 2130 invoked by uid 109); 30 Aug 2018 03:20:08 -0000 Received: from Unknown (HELO peff.net) (10.0.1.2) by cloud.peff.net (qpsmtpd/0.94) with SMTP; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 03:20:08 +0000 Authentication-Results: cloud.peff.net; auth=none Received: (qmail 22070 invoked by uid 111); 30 Aug 2018 03:20:16 -0000 Received: from sigill.intra.peff.net (HELO sigill.intra.peff.net) (10.0.0.7) by peff.net (qpsmtpd/0.94) with (ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 encrypted) SMTP; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 23:20:16 -0400 Authentication-Results: peff.net; auth=none Received: by sigill.intra.peff.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 29 Aug 2018 23:20:06 -0400 Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2018 23:20:06 -0400 From: Jeff King To: Johannes Schindelin Cc: git@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Contributor Summit planning Message-ID: <20180830032006.GC665@sigill.intra.peff.net> References: <20180813163108.GA6731@sigill.intra.peff.net> <20180829045548.GB15274@sigill.intra.peff.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 04:46:29PM +0200, Johannes Schindelin wrote: > On Wed, 29 Aug 2018, Jeff King wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 03:34:16PM +0200, Johannes Schindelin wrote: > > > > > Rather than have a "hack day", I would actually prefer to work with > > > other contributors in a way that we have not done before, but which I > > > had the pleasure of "test ballooning" with Pratik: using Visual Studio > > > Code Live Share. This allows multiple users to work on the same code > > > base, in the same worktree, seeing what each other is doing. It > > > requires a separate communication channel to talk; Pratik & I used > > > IRC, but I think Google Hangout (or Skype or WhatsApp or > > > ) would have worked a bit better. It's > > > kind of pair programming, but with some of the limitations removed. > > > > OK, I said in my earlier email that I would give any scheme a try, but I > > really don't like pair programming. ;) > > Tastes do differ, and that's okay. > > I found it pretty invaluable a tool for intense 1:1 mentoring. It > definitely helps a lot with getting over the initial hurdles. Actually, I would agree that mentoring is probably one of the best uses for pairing like that. In retrospect, I think we should have done more real-time collaboration during Outreachy last winter. It's still not my taste, but I think we could have accomplished more overall. Not that I need to convince you, but just seconding your advice for the benefit of people who are thinking about mentoring in the future. -Peff