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From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: Geert Jansen <gerardu@amazon.com>
Cc: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>,
	"Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>,
	"git@vger.kernel.org" <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] index-pack: improve performance on NFS
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2018 07:02:57 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181108120256.GA29432@sigill.intra.peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181107225524.GA119693@amazon.com>

On Wed, Nov 07, 2018 at 10:55:24PM +0000, Geert Jansen wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 07:27:39PM -0400, Jeff King wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 08:36:07PM +0100, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
> > >  * Re-roll my 4 patch series to include the patch you have in
> > >    <20181027093300.GA23974@sigill.intra.peff.net>
> > 
> > I don't think it's quite ready for inclusion as-is. I hope to brush it
> > up a bit, but I have quite a backlog of stuff to review, as well.
> 
> We're still quite keen to get this patch included. Is there anything I can do
> to help?

Yes, testing and review. :)

I won't send the series out just yet, as I suspect it could use another
read-through on my part. But if you want to peek at it or try some
timings, it's available at:

  https://github.com/peff/git jk/loose-cache

It's quite a bit bigger than the original patch, as some refactoring was
necessary to reuse the existing cache in alternate_object_directories.
I'm rather pleased with how it turned out; it unifies the handling of
alternates and the main object directory, which is a cleanup I've been
wanting to do for some time.

> Also I just re-read your comments on maximum cache size. I think you were
> arguing both sides of the equation and I wasn't sure where you'd ended up. :)
> A larger cache size potentially takes more time to fill up especially on NFS
> while a smaller cache size obviously would less effective. That said a small
> cache is still effective for the "clone" case where the repo is empty.

I ended up thinking that a large cache is going to be fine. So I didn't
even bother implementing a limit in my series, which makes things a bit
simpler (it's one less state to deal with).

Since it reuses the existing cache code, it's better in a few ways than
my earlier patch:

  1. If a program uses OBJECT_INFO_QUICK and prints abbreviated sha1s,
     we only have to load the cache once (I think fetch does this, but I
     didn't test it).

  2. The cache is filled one directory at a time, which avoids
     unnecessary work when there are only a few lookups.

  3. The cache is per-object-directory. So if a request can be filled
     without looking at an alternate, we avoid looking at the alternate.
     I doubt this matters much in practice (the case we care about is
     when we _don't_ have the object, and there you have to look
     everywhere).

The one thing I didn't implement is a config option to disable this.
That would be pretty easy to add. I don't think it's necessary, but it
would make testing before/after behavior easier if somebody thinks it's
slowing down their particular case.

> It also occurred to me that as a performance optimization your patch could read
> the the loose object directories in parallel using a thread pool. At least on
> Amazon EFS this should result in al almost linear performance increase. I'm not
> sure how much this would help for local file systems. In any case this may be
> best done as a follow-up patch (that I'd be happy to volunteer for).

Yeah, I suspect it could make things faster in some cases. But it also
implies filling all of the cache directories at once up front. The code
I have now tries to avoid unnecessary cache fills. But it would be
pretty easy to kick off a full fill.

I agree it would make more sense as a follow-up patch (and probably
controlled by a config option, since it likely only makes sense when you
have a really high-latency readdir).

-Peff

  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-08 12:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-25 18:38 [RFC PATCH] index-pack: improve performance on NFS Jansen, Geert
2018-10-26  0:21 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-26 20:38   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-27  7:26     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-27  9:33       ` Jeff King
2018-10-27 11:22         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-28 22:50           ` [PATCH 0/4] index-pack: optionally turn off SHA-1 collision checking Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-30  2:49             ` Geert Jansen
2018-10-30  9:04               ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-30 18:43             ` [PATCH v2 0/3] index-pack: test updates Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-13 20:19               ` [PATCH v3] index-pack: add ability to disable SHA-1 collision check Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-14  7:09                 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-11-14 12:40                   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-30 18:43             ` [PATCH v2 1/3] pack-objects test: modernize style Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-30 18:43             ` [PATCH v2 2/3] pack-objects tests: don't leave test .git corrupt at end Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-30 18:43             ` [PATCH v2 3/3] index-pack tests: don't leave test repo dirty " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-28 22:50           ` [PATCH 1/4] pack-objects test: modernize style Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-28 22:50           ` [PATCH 2/4] pack-objects tests: don't leave test .git corrupt at end Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-28 22:50           ` [PATCH 3/4] index-pack tests: don't leave test repo dirty " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-28 22:50           ` [PATCH 4/4] index-pack: add ability to disable SHA-1 collision check Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-29 15:04           ` [RFC PATCH] index-pack: improve performance on NFS Jeff King
2018-10-29 15:09             ` Jeff King
2018-10-29 19:36             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-29 23:27               ` Jeff King
2018-11-07 22:55                 ` Geert Jansen
2018-11-08 12:02                   ` Jeff King [this message]
2018-11-08 20:58                     ` Geert Jansen
2018-11-08 21:18                       ` Jeff King
2018-11-08 21:55                         ` Geert Jansen
2018-11-08 22:20                     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-09 10:11                       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-12 14:31                       ` Jeff King
2018-11-12 14:46                     ` [PATCH 0/9] caching loose objects Jeff King
2018-11-12 14:46                       ` [PATCH 1/9] fsck: do not reuse child_process structs Jeff King
2018-11-12 15:26                         ` Derrick Stolee
2018-11-12 14:47                       ` [PATCH 2/9] submodule--helper: prefer strip_suffix() to ends_with() Jeff King
2018-11-12 18:23                         ` Stefan Beller
2018-11-12 14:48                       ` [PATCH 3/9] rename "alternate_object_database" to "object_directory" Jeff King
2018-11-12 15:30                         ` Derrick Stolee
2018-11-12 15:36                           ` Jeff King
2018-11-12 19:41                             ` Ramsay Jones
2018-11-12 14:48                       ` [PATCH 4/9] sha1_file_name(): overwrite buffer instead of appending Jeff King
2018-11-12 15:32                         ` Derrick Stolee
2018-11-12 14:49                       ` [PATCH 5/9] handle alternates paths the same as the main object dir Jeff King
2018-11-12 15:38                         ` Derrick Stolee
2018-11-12 15:46                           ` Jeff King
2018-11-12 15:50                             ` Derrick Stolee
2018-11-12 14:50                       ` [PATCH 6/9] sha1-file: use an object_directory for " Jeff King
2018-11-12 15:48                         ` Derrick Stolee
2018-11-12 16:09                           ` Jeff King
2018-11-12 19:04                             ` Stefan Beller
2018-11-22 17:42                               ` Jeff King
2018-11-12 18:48                           ` Stefan Beller
2018-11-12 14:50                       ` [PATCH 7/9] object-store: provide helpers for loose_objects_cache Jeff King
2018-11-12 19:24                         ` René Scharfe
2018-11-12 20:16                           ` Jeff King
2018-11-12 14:54                       ` [PATCH 8/9] sha1-file: use loose object cache for quick existence check Jeff King
2018-11-12 16:00                         ` Derrick Stolee
2018-11-12 16:01                         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-12 16:21                           ` Jeff King
2018-11-12 22:18                             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-12 22:30                               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-13 10:02                                 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-14 18:21                                   ` René Scharfe
2018-12-02 10:52                                   ` René Scharfe
2018-12-03 22:04                                     ` Jeff King
2018-12-04 21:45                                       ` René Scharfe
2018-12-05  4:46                                         ` Jeff King
2018-12-05  6:02                                           ` René Scharfe
2018-12-05  6:51                                             ` Jeff King
2018-12-05  8:15                                               ` Jeff King
2018-12-05 18:41                                                 ` René Scharfe
2018-12-05 20:17                                                   ` Jeff King
2018-11-12 22:44                             ` Geert Jansen
2018-11-27 20:48                         ` René Scharfe
2018-12-01 19:49                           ` Jeff King
2018-11-12 14:55                       ` [PATCH 9/9] fetch-pack: drop custom loose object cache Jeff King
2018-11-12 19:25                         ` René Scharfe
2018-11-12 19:32                           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-12 20:07                             ` Jeff King
2018-11-12 20:13                             ` René Scharfe
2018-11-12 16:02                       ` [PATCH 0/9] caching loose objects Derrick Stolee
2018-11-12 19:10                         ` Stefan Beller
2018-11-09 13:43                   ` [RFC PATCH] index-pack: improve performance on NFS Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-09 16:08                     ` Duy Nguyen
2018-11-10 14:04                       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-12 14:34                         ` Jeff King
2018-11-12 22:58                     ` Geert Jansen
2018-10-27 14:04         ` Duy Nguyen
2018-10-29 15:18           ` Jeff King
2018-10-29  0:48         ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-29 15:20           ` Jeff King
2018-10-29 18:43             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-29 21:34           ` Geert Jansen
2018-10-29 21:50             ` Jeff King
2018-10-29 22:21               ` Geert Jansen
2018-10-29 22:27             ` Jeff King
2018-10-29 22:35               ` Stefan Beller
2018-10-29 23:29                 ` Jeff King

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