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From: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, "Han-Wen Nienhuys" <hanwen@google.com>,
	"Johannes Schindelin" <johannes.schindelin@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: Referring to commits in commit messages
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2018 15:29:48 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181219232948.GD228469@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181219224810.GA20888@sigill.intra.peff.net>

Jeff King wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 10:39:27AM -0800, Jonathan Nieder wrote:

>> Is there some rule about how long the hex string has to be for this to
>> work?
>
> In both cases, it has to be 7 characters.

Thanks.

[...]
>> The issue with this is that it is ambiguous about what the tag name is
>> referring to: does that mean that "git describe" and "git version"
>> tell me that v2.11.0 is the nearest *previous* release to that commit
>> or that "git name-rev" tells me that v2.11.0 is a nearby *subsequent*
>> release that contains it?
>
> Sure, it's ambiguous if you've never seen it. But if it becomes a
> convention in the project, then I don't think that's an obstacle.

I'm speaking from experience: this is hard for newcomers to grasp.

> I'm also not sure it really matters all that much either way. If you buy
> my argument that this is just about placing the general era of the
> commit in the mind of the reader, then "just before v2.11" or "just
> after v2.11" are about the same.

If it's that unreliable, I'd rather just have the hash, to be honest.

Ideally the full 40 characters, since that would make git name-rev
--stdin work. :)

[...]
>> I think a more promising approach is the Fixes trailer Duy mentioned,
>> which has been working well for the Linux kernel project.  I'll follow
>> up in a reply to his message.
>
> I think that's a good idea if something is in fact being fixed. But
> there are many other reasons to refer to another commit in prose (or
> even outside of a commit message entirely).

Sure, but in those cases do we need the ability to query on them?

To me it seems similar to having a policy on how to reference people
in commit messages (e.g. "always include their email address"), so
that I can grep for a contributor to see how they were involved in a
patch.  If it's not structured data, then at some point I stop
worrying so much about machine parsability.

Thanks,
Jonathan

  reply	other threads:[~2018-12-19 23:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-12-17 16:59 [PATCH] stripspace: allow -s/-c outside git repository Jonathan Nieder
2018-12-18  6:09 ` Martin Ågren
2018-12-18 12:00   ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-12-19 21:52     ` Martin Ågren
2018-12-18 11:58 ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-12-19 14:02 ` Referring to commits in commit messages Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-12-19 17:11   ` Duy Nguyen
2018-12-19 22:14     ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-12-20  0:18       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-12-24  0:01       ` Jacob Keller
2018-12-19 17:38   ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-12-19 18:22   ` Jeff King
2018-12-19 18:39     ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-12-19 22:48       ` Jeff King
2018-12-19 23:29         ` Jonathan Nieder [this message]
2018-12-20  2:51           ` Jeff King
2018-12-19 18:52     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason

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