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From: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>
To: Thomas Gummerer <t.gummerer@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, "Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>,
	"Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy" <pclouds@gmail.com>,
	"Elijah Newren" <newren@gmail.com>,
	"Eric Sunshine" <sunshine@sunshineco.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 7/8] checkout: introduce --{,no-}overlay option
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 15:53:13 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190122235313.GA199923@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190108215225.3077-8-t.gummerer@gmail.com>

Hi,

Thomas Gummerer wrote:

> Currently 'git checkout' is defined as an overlay operation, which
> means that if in 'git checkout <tree-ish> -- [<pathspec>]' we have an
> entry in the index that matches <pathspec>, but that doesn't exist in
> <tree-ish>, that entry will not be removed from the index or the
> working tree.
>
> Introduce a new --{,no-}overlay option, which allows using 'git
> checkout' in non-overlay mode, thus removing files from the working
> tree if they do not exist in <tree-ish> but match <pathspec>.

This patch just hit my workstation.  Some initial thoughts:

I had no idea what --overlay would mean and am still not clear on it.
Is this analogous to "git add --ignore-removal"?  If so, can we just
call it --ignore-removal?

Thank you thank you thank you for working on this.  I run into this
all the time and am super excited about the "default to
--no-ignore-removal" future.

I'm nervous about the config with no associated warning or plan for
phasing it out.  It means that scripts using "git checkout" don't
get a consistent behavior unless they explicitly pass this option,
which didn't exist in older versions of Git --- in other words,
scripts have no real good option.  Can we plan a transition to
making --no-ignore-removal the default, in multiple steps?  For
example:

 1. First introduce the commandline option, as in this series

 2. Next, change the default to warn whenever the difference would
    matter, printing a hint about how to configure to explicitly
    request the old or new behavior.

 3. After a release or two has passed so people get a chance
    to update their scripts, flip the default.

 4. Finally, remove the warning.

 5. Warn whenver the difference would matter when a user has
    requested the old behavior through config, in preparation
    for removing the config.

 6. Remove the config.

Steps 5 and 6 are optional but might be nice.

What do you think?

Thanks,
Jonathan

  reply	other threads:[~2019-01-22 23:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 115+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-12-09 20:04 [PATCH 0/8] introduce no-overlay and cached mode in git checkout Thomas Gummerer
2018-12-09 20:04 ` [PATCH 1/8] move worktree tests to t24* Thomas Gummerer
2018-12-10  3:48   ` Junio C Hamano
2018-12-10 15:32   ` Duy Nguyen
2018-12-11 21:50     ` Thomas Gummerer
2018-12-12 13:26       ` Eric Sunshine
2018-12-12 17:07         ` Duy Nguyen
2018-12-09 20:04 ` [PATCH 2/8] entry: factor out unlink_entry function Thomas Gummerer
2018-12-10 15:49   ` Duy Nguyen
2018-12-10 17:23     ` Elijah Newren
2018-12-10 17:27       ` Duy Nguyen
2018-12-11  2:23     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-12-20 13:36     ` Thomas Gummerer
2018-12-09 20:04 ` [PATCH 3/8] entry: support CE_WT_REMOVE flag in checkout_entry Thomas Gummerer
2018-12-10 15:58   ` Duy Nguyen
2018-12-11  2:28     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-12-12  6:16       ` Duy Nguyen
2018-12-12  7:36         ` Junio C Hamano
2018-12-10 17:49   ` Elijah Newren
2018-12-11 22:00     ` Thomas Gummerer
2018-12-09 20:04 ` [PATCH 4/8] read-cache: add invalidate parameter to remove_marked_cache_entries Thomas Gummerer
2018-12-10 16:08   ` Duy Nguyen
2018-12-10 18:09     ` Elijah Newren
2018-12-10 18:19       ` Duy Nguyen
2018-12-10 18:25         ` Elijah Newren
2018-12-10 18:33           ` Duy Nguyen
2018-12-10 18:47             ` Elijah Newren
2018-12-11 21:59       ` Thomas Gummerer
2018-12-11  2:42     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-12-09 20:04 ` [PATCH 5/8] checkout: introduce --{,no-}overlay option Thomas Gummerer
2018-12-10 16:42   ` Duy Nguyen
2018-12-11 22:42     ` Thomas Gummerer
2018-12-10 18:19   ` Elijah Newren
2018-12-11  3:07     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-12-11  6:04       ` Elijah Newren
2018-12-11 22:07       ` Thomas Gummerer
2018-12-09 20:04 ` [PATCH 6/8] checkout: add --cached option Thomas Gummerer
2018-12-10 16:49   ` Duy Nguyen
2018-12-11  3:13     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-12-11  6:12       ` Elijah Newren
2018-12-11 19:23         ` Duy Nguyen
2019-01-31  5:54           ` Duy Nguyen
2019-01-31 19:05             ` Junio C Hamano
2019-02-01  6:48               ` Duy Nguyen
2019-02-01 17:57                 ` Junio C Hamano
2019-02-02 10:57                   ` Duy Nguyen
2019-02-19  4:20                   ` Duy Nguyen
2019-02-19 14:42                     ` Elijah Newren
2019-02-19 14:57                       ` Duy Nguyen
2019-02-19 19:07                       ` Junio C Hamano
2019-02-19 22:24                         ` Elijah Newren
2019-02-19 22:36                           ` Junio C Hamano
2019-02-19 23:00                             ` Elijah Newren
2019-02-20  1:53                             ` Duy Nguyen
2019-02-19 19:02                     ` Junio C Hamano
2019-02-19 19:10                       ` Junio C Hamano
2019-02-19 22:04                         ` Elijah Newren
2019-02-19 22:29                           ` Junio C Hamano
2019-02-20  2:32                             ` Duy Nguyen
2019-02-20  3:52                           ` Duy Nguyen
2019-02-20  2:19                         ` Duy Nguyen
2019-02-19 22:13                       ` Elijah Newren
2019-02-19 22:33                         ` Junio C Hamano
2018-12-10 18:42   ` Elijah Newren
2018-12-11 22:18     ` Thomas Gummerer
2018-12-09 20:04 ` [PATCH 7/8] checkout: allow ignoring unmatched pathspec Thomas Gummerer
2018-12-10 16:51   ` Duy Nguyen
2018-12-11 22:23     ` Thomas Gummerer
2018-12-10 20:25   ` Elijah Newren
2018-12-11 22:36     ` Thomas Gummerer
2018-12-09 20:04 ` [PATCH 8/8] stash: use git checkout --no-overlay Thomas Gummerer
2018-12-10 20:26   ` Elijah Newren
2018-12-10  3:47 ` [PATCH 0/8] introduce no-overlay and cached mode in git checkout Junio C Hamano
2018-12-20  8:43   ` Thomas Gummerer
2018-12-10 17:06 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-12-10 17:18 ` Elijah Newren
2018-12-10 18:37   ` Duy Nguyen
2018-12-11 22:52   ` Thomas Gummerer
2018-12-12  7:28     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-12-20 13:48 ` [PATCH v2 0/8] introduce no-overlay " Thomas Gummerer
2018-12-20 13:48   ` [PATCH v2 1/8] move worktree tests to t24* Thomas Gummerer
2018-12-20 13:48   ` [PATCH v2 2/8] entry: factor out unlink_entry function Thomas Gummerer
2018-12-20 13:48   ` [PATCH v2 3/8] entry: support CE_WT_REMOVE flag in checkout_entry Thomas Gummerer
2018-12-20 13:48   ` [PATCH v2 4/8] read-cache: add invalidate parameter to remove_marked_cache_entries Thomas Gummerer
2018-12-20 13:48   ` [PATCH v2 5/8] checkout: clarify comment Thomas Gummerer
2018-12-20 13:48   ` [PATCH v2 6/8] checkout: factor out mark_cache_entry_for_checkout function Thomas Gummerer
2018-12-20 13:48   ` [PATCH v2 7/8] checkout: introduce --{,no-}overlay option Thomas Gummerer
2018-12-23  8:05     ` Duy Nguyen
2018-12-23  9:44       ` Eric Sunshine
2019-01-06 18:18         ` Thomas Gummerer
2018-12-20 13:48   ` [PATCH v2 8/8] checkout: introduce checkout.overlayMode config Thomas Gummerer
2019-01-02 23:39     ` Junio C Hamano
2019-01-06 18:32       ` Thomas Gummerer
2019-01-07 17:00         ` Junio C Hamano
2019-01-08 21:52   ` [PATCH v3 0/8] introduce no-overlay mode in git checkout Thomas Gummerer
2019-01-08 21:52     ` [PATCH v3 1/8] move worktree tests to t24* Thomas Gummerer
2019-01-08 21:52     ` [PATCH v3 2/8] entry: factor out unlink_entry function Thomas Gummerer
2019-01-08 21:52     ` [PATCH v3 3/8] entry: support CE_WT_REMOVE flag in checkout_entry Thomas Gummerer
2019-01-08 21:52     ` [PATCH v3 4/8] read-cache: add invalidate parameter to remove_marked_cache_entries Thomas Gummerer
2019-01-08 21:52     ` [PATCH v3 5/8] checkout: clarify comment Thomas Gummerer
2019-01-08 21:52     ` [PATCH v3 6/8] checkout: factor out mark_cache_entry_for_checkout function Thomas Gummerer
2019-01-08 21:52     ` [PATCH v3 7/8] checkout: introduce --{,no-}overlay option Thomas Gummerer
2019-01-22 23:53       ` Jonathan Nieder [this message]
2019-01-23 19:05         ` Junio C Hamano
2019-01-23 20:21         ` Thomas Gummerer
2019-01-23 20:47           ` Jonathan Nieder
2019-01-24 22:08             ` Thomas Gummerer
2019-01-23 21:08           ` Junio C Hamano
2019-01-24  1:12             ` Jonathan Nieder
2019-01-24 22:02               ` Thomas Gummerer
2019-01-24 23:02               ` Junio C Hamano
2019-01-25  2:26                 ` Jonathan Nieder
2019-01-25  9:24                   ` Duy Nguyen
2019-02-09 18:54               ` Philip Oakley
2019-01-08 21:52     ` [PATCH v3 8/8] checkout: introduce checkout.overlayMode config Thomas Gummerer

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