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From: "SZEDER Gábor" <szeder.dev@gmail.com>
To: Johannes Sixt <j6t@kdbg.org>
Cc: phillip.wood@dunelm.org.uk, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] name-rev: avoid cutoff timestamp underflow
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2019 09:21:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190924072159.GD2637@szeder.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fe58f33f-a3ae-4981-5bb7-d1659f3ab189@kdbg.org>

On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 09:16:26PM +0200, Johannes Sixt wrote:
> Am 23.09.19 um 10:37 schrieb SZEDER Gábor:
> > On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 11:01:26PM +0200, Johannes Sixt wrote:
> >> Huh? For signed cutoff and positive CUTOFF_DATE_SLOP,
> >> cutoff - CUTOFF_DATE_SLOP < cutoff is ALWAYS true. Signed interger
> >> underflow is undefined behavior and signed integer arithmetic does not
> >> wrap around!
> >>
> >> IOW, the new condition makes only sense today, because cutoff is an
> >> unsigned type, but breaks down should we switch to a signed type.
> > 
> > Yeah, that's what I meant with worrying about signed underflow in the
> > commit message.  As long as the cutoff is at least a day later than
> > the minimum value of our future signed 'timestamp_t', the condition
> > does the right thing.  And considering that oldest time a signed 64
> > bit timestamp can represent far exceeds the age of the universe, and
> > the oldest value of even a signed 32 bit timestamp is almost half the
> > age of the Earth, I wasn't too worried.
> 
> Note that commits and timestamps can be forged easily. I'm not worried
> that Git does not work "correctly" with forged timestamps (as long as it
> is not exploitable); but when it is simple to make foolproof, we should
> do it.
> 
> BTW, 32-bit timestamps cover just ~135 years (not half the age of
> Earth).

Gah, forgot the division with seconds/year when calculating the range
of the 32bit timestamp.

> That's too little for people who want to store historic
> documents in a Git repository.

Indeed, but 'timestamp_t' is defined as 'uintmax_t', and we have the
Makefile knob 'NO_UINTMAX_T', in which case 'uintmax_t' is defined as
'uint32_t'...


  reply	other threads:[~2019-09-24  7:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-09-22 18:01 [PATCH] name-rev: avoid cutoff timestamp underflow SZEDER Gábor
2019-09-22 18:57 ` Phillip Wood
2019-09-22 19:53   ` SZEDER Gábor
2019-09-22 21:01     ` Johannes Sixt
2019-09-23  8:37       ` SZEDER Gábor
2019-09-23  9:30         ` Phillip Wood
2019-09-23 19:16         ` Johannes Sixt
2019-09-24  7:21           ` SZEDER Gábor [this message]
2019-09-23  1:42 ` brian m. carlson
2019-09-23  8:39   ` SZEDER Gábor
2019-09-24  7:32 ` SZEDER Gábor

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