Bi-Weekly Standup - Time/timezone in calendar?

Bi-Weekly Standup - Time/timezone in calendar?

[Philip Oakley]

Hi,

At the Virtual Git Contributors Summit we discussed (#13) the bi-weekly 
standup meetings (mentioned in the Git Rev News edition 55 under 
'News/Various').

The Git Events calendar [1] that's linked from the Rev News doesn't 
actually say what time zone to use for the stand-up start time, so at 
first glance one can get confused by summer time and national time zone 
differences.

Currently it's saying (when clicked on, via 'more details')

Git Standup
Monday, September 30⋅6:00 – 7:00pm
Every 2 weeks on Monday

I thought it was to be 1700 UTC, which currently is 1800 BST her in UK, 
and 1900 CST in Europe.

If I hover over the event (have to restart the calendar), I (depending 
on view) do get an indicator in the lower left status bar that
"Events shown in time zone: Coordinated Universal Time". but with a 5pm 
indication in the calendar sheet.

Is this google calendar trying to be too clever, or should "1700 UTC" be 
included in the event details? I don't use Google calendar except for 
occasional reference.

Philip


[1] 
https://calendar.google.com/calendar/embed?src=nk8ph2kh4p5tgfcctb8i7dm6d4%40group.calendar.google.com

Re: Bi-Weekly Standup - Time/timezone in calendar?

[Thomas Gummerer]

On 09/25, Philip Oakley wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> At the Virtual Git Contributors Summit we discussed (#13) the bi-weekly
> standup meetings (mentioned in the Git Rev News edition 55 under
> 'News/Various').
> 
> The Git Events calendar [1] that's linked from the Rev News doesn't actually
> say what time zone to use for the stand-up start time, so at first glance
> one can get confused by summer time and national time zone differences.
> 
> Currently it's saying (when clicked on, via 'more details')
> 
> Git Standup
> Monday, September 30⋅6:00 – 7:00pm
> Every 2 weeks on Monday
> 
> I thought it was to be 1700 UTC, which currently is 1800 BST her in UK, and
> 1900 CST in Europe.

That's my recollection as well, and what the calendar should say.
Thanks for flagging this!

> If I hover over the event (have to restart the calendar), I (depending on
> view) do get an indicator in the lower left status bar that
> "Events shown in time zone: Coordinated Universal Time". but with a 5pm
> indication in the calendar sheet.
> 
> Is this google calendar trying to be too clever, or should "1700 UTC" be
> included in the event details? I don't use Google calendar except for
> occasional reference.

Yeah, I think the embed view of the Google Calendar is trying to be
too clever here.  I did set the event up to be at 17:00 UTC, and I'm
not sure why it showed up otherwise for you.

I have now updated the event with a few more details, including that
it is happening at 17:00 UTC, and added that information to the title
as well.  Hope that helps!

Also replying to your last question in https://github.com/git/git.github.io/issues/394#issuecomment-535030810:

> Also given Dscho's comment at the summit about late evenings, are we
> changing the time for those dark winter nights soon to come (N
> Hemisphere)?

I don't know.  I'd be happy to keep it at 17:00 UTC, but that might be
a bit early for folks living on the west coast.  I don't have a strong
opinion on this, but I'm happy to update the calendar (or not
depending on what we decide) once the decision is made.

> Philip
> 
> 
> [1] https://calendar.google.com/calendar/embed?src=nk8ph2kh4p5tgfcctb8i7dm6d4%40group.calendar.google.com
> 

Re: Bi-Weekly Standup - Time/timezone in calendar?

[Philip Oakley]

On 25/09/2019 15:32, Thomas Gummerer wrote:
> On 09/25, Philip Oakley wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> At the Virtual Git Contributors Summit we discussed (#13) the bi-weekly
>> standup meetings (mentioned in the Git Rev News edition 55 under
>> 'News/Various').
>>
>> The Git Events calendar [1] that's linked from the Rev News doesn't actually
>> say what time zone to use for the stand-up start time, so at first glance
>> one can get confused by summer time and national time zone differences.
>>
>> Currently it's saying (when clicked on, via 'more details')
>>
>> Git Standup
>> Monday, September 30⋅6:00 – 7:00pm
>> Every 2 weeks on Monday
>>
>> I thought it was to be 1700 UTC, which currently is 1800 BST her in UK, and
>> 1900 CST in Europe.
> That's my recollection as well, and what the calendar should say.
> Thanks for flagging this!
>
>> If I hover over the event (have to restart the calendar), I (depending on
>> view) do get an indicator in the lower left status bar that
>> "Events shown in time zone: Coordinated Universal Time". but with a 5pm
>> indication in the calendar sheet.
>>
>> Is this google calendar trying to be too clever, or should "1700 UTC" be
>> included in the event details? I don't use Google calendar except for
>> occasional reference.
> Yeah, I think the embed view of the Google Calendar is trying to be
> too clever here.  I did set the event up to be at 17:00 UTC, and I'm
> not sure why it showed up otherwise for you.
>
> I have now updated the event with a few more details, including that
> it is happening at 17:00 UTC, and added that information to the title
> as well.  Hope that helps!
Looks a lot better, especially if one clicks and selects the 'more 
details' option (which changes to local TZ)

> Also replying to your last question in https://github.com/git/git.github.io/issues/394#issuecomment-535030810:
>
>> Also given Dscho's comment at the summit about late evenings, are we
>> changing the time for those dark winter nights soon to come (N
>> Hemisphere)?
> I don't know.  I'd be happy to keep it at 17:00 UTC, but that might be
> a bit early for folks living on the west coast.  I don't have a strong
> opinion on this, but I'm happy to update the calendar (or not
> depending on what we decide) once the decision is made.

Once everyone changed from daylight saving, then changing to local clock 
is likely (unless we have a few southern hemisphere dst folks going the 
other way! James Ramsay?)

>> Philip
>>
>>
>> [1] https://calendar.google.com/calendar/embed?src=nk8ph2kh4p5tgfcctb8i7dm6d4%40group.calendar.google.com
>>

Re: Bi-Weekly Standup - Time/timezone in calendar?

[Junio C Hamano]

Thomas Gummerer <t.gummerer@gmail.com> writes:

>> I thought it was to be 1700 UTC, which currently is 1800 BST her in UK, and
>> 1900 CST in Europe.
>
> That's my recollection as well, and what the calendar should say.
> Thanks for flagging this!
>
> I don't know.  I'd be happy to keep it at 17:00 UTC, but that might be
> a bit early for folks living on the west coast.  I don't have a strong
> opinion on this, but I'm happy to update the calendar (or not
> depending on what we decide) once the decision is made.

By the way, this is sort of off-topic, but should I add this to
tinyurl.com/gitCal (or even better, should I add you as another
editor of the said calendar), so that people have one fewer
calendars to follow?

Re: Bi-Weekly Standup - Time/timezone in calendar?

[Thomas Gummerer]

On 09/28, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> Thomas Gummerer <t.gummerer@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> >> I thought it was to be 1700 UTC, which currently is 1800 BST her in UK, and
> >> 1900 CST in Europe.
> >
> > That's my recollection as well, and what the calendar should say.
> > Thanks for flagging this!
> >
> > I don't know.  I'd be happy to keep it at 17:00 UTC, but that might be
> > a bit early for folks living on the west coast.  I don't have a strong
> > opinion on this, but I'm happy to update the calendar (or not
> > depending on what we decide) once the decision is made.
> 
> By the way, this is sort of off-topic, but should I add this to
> tinyurl.com/gitCal (or even better, should I add you as another
> editor of the said calendar), so that people have one fewer
> calendars to follow?

Yeah, I think that would be awesome, thanks for offering.  One less
calendar should definitely make things easier for people (and give the
standup some more visibility).

And I'd be happy to take care of adding/updating the events if you add
me as editor to the calendar.

Thanks!