From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0EFF419EED8 for ; Tue, 13 Aug 2024 15:06:14 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1723561575; cv=none; b=TID7kQyXTYUD9rI8uaITMh+bnj6Wnadju8TH2Gs20cBBMpK0hd1AjS+QVN6NbON0VB4/6OtF+VlLKl7swJ57mOQSpa7iUxKCCRBc8ZRtFPw/CqC5BNMTZam19ueGY94VyC+G5WEKplWDV8gLoyNgbDAAURID7ppGGXQpLQPCJq8= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1723561575; c=relaxed/simple; bh=G1jX/wn9+FxBMJX3eZ43qN1TNvvgaOQc+hQlSSD3X3c=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=N6f0s5fMxUMpPIuHs7IPDadlpzYvmjlO6Feaz1HzvI5D5ail/HQhdIT7sY1adOUmny3SHLdT3FpuvP9g3SuggX4ViRTsFcQooBSdczYpZ4RQgLrEs9asqso2QKE8L6tz1At1QN/800YhBfeeGGLTyuxL67JT4CZj653THuCDX/4= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=linuxfoundation.org header.i=@linuxfoundation.org header.b=uVKfiLMp; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=linuxfoundation.org header.i=@linuxfoundation.org header.b="uVKfiLMp" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 602FEC4AF09; Tue, 13 Aug 2024 15:06:14 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=linuxfoundation.org; s=korg; t=1723561574; bh=G1jX/wn9+FxBMJX3eZ43qN1TNvvgaOQc+hQlSSD3X3c=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=uVKfiLMpoJRRjrVeSZTaihRfgH6pCLrcKon4c+aAeBCdNWZcJYmE2+YEgT69xJ2hh XC/MwJxNhYMFbeLbBpcYkUTLwMqMr00e7s3vQgNUOjVtfj4sVaVxcBA/Ap6SMe3yL2 kZ2ToxIKAPwW4A6bmD+XCAWFM/UL60E6dW0d2d6o= Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2024 11:06:13 -0400 From: Konstantin Ryabitsev To: "brian m. carlson" , Mike Castle , git Subject: Re: Heads up: GMail regularly marking list messages as spam Message-ID: <20240813-sociable-fresh-whippet-3ee335@meerkat> References: Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: On Mon, Aug 12, 2024 at 09:16:56PM GMT, brian m. carlson wrote: > Gmail and Yahoo have both set up new requirements for senders[0]. This > requires that all senders have SPF and DKIM, and senders sending more > than 5000 messages per day have DMARC set up. One-click unsubscribe in > RFC 8058 is also obligatory, as is TLS for sending messages. These > changes came into effect in February 2024. > > I don't believe vger uses DKIM (at least, it doesn't appear to add DKIM > headers) and doesn't support RFC 8058 one-click unsubscribe. Perhaps > adding support for those, as well as any other relevant requirements, > would improve things. These guidelines are only applicable if vger was the origin of the messages, not a forwarder. For forwarders, it is only required to add ARC signatures: https://support.google.com/mail/answer/175365?hl=en The only thing we aren't doing is we're not adding X-Forwarded-To headers, because mlmmj doesn't yet support it (should be in 1.5). -K