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From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Matt Smiley <msmiley@gitlab.com>,
	"brian m. carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net>,
	Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] upload-pack: reduce lock contention when writing packfile data
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2026 08:35:40 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260303133540.GA818878@coredump.intra.peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aaaqgrmOBj-Ly1Vx@pks.im>

On Tue, Mar 03, 2026 at 10:31:46AM +0100, Patrick Steinhardt wrote:

> > As far as doing both, I'm not sure if it's worth it. My two concerns
> > are:
> > 
> >   1. It re-opens the question of whether upload-pack might stall waiting
> >      to fill its buffer and fail to produce keepalives correctly.
> 
> I've got a patch for that. The problem can even trigger right now as we
> already do buffer some of the data, and that may cause the keepalives to
> be missed. But this only happens initially in our current
> infrastructure, before we see the "PACK" signature, so it's unlikely to
> be a problem in practice.

I'm not sure what you mean by "this only happens initially" here. If it
is: we can only miss keepalives in that time, then I think that is
probably a real problem. The time we _most_ need keepalives is before we
see the PACK signature, because that is when pack-objects is chewing on
the input, looking for deltas, etc, and not producing any output.

It is usually "solved" by pack-objects producing progress over stderr,
but for "--quiet" fetches, it could produce nothing for a long time.

But anyway, if you are fixing it either way, then I am happy. :)

> We would likely hit this issue if we insist on the buffer being
> completely filled before sending it out. But that's why I adapted the
> logic to say that we send out once we've filled it at least 2/3rds of
> the pktline limit. So in your case above we wouldn't face an issue as
> we'd already send the first 50kB, as it is smaller than 2/3rds of the
> maximum length (~42kB).
> 
> That being said, you'll still be able to construct cases where we have
> weird edge cases. For example if you consistently send one byte less
> than 2/3rds of the capacity.

Right, my numbers were just meant as examples. Whatever the values, it
means that whatever is generating the pack data (pack-objects or
otherwise) really wants to be in sync with how upload-pack is buffering.
Or vice versa. If we just pass back whole chunks of what we read() in
upload-pack, then that happens automatically.

-Peff

  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-03 13:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-27 11:22 [PATCH 0/2] upload-pack: reduce lock contention when writing packfile data Patrick Steinhardt
2026-02-27 11:23 ` [PATCH 1/2] upload-pack: fix debug statement when flushing " Patrick Steinhardt
2026-02-27 11:23 ` [PATCH 2/2] upload-pack: reduce lock contention when writing " Patrick Steinhardt
2026-02-27 13:04   ` brian m. carlson
2026-02-27 18:14     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-02-27 17:29   ` Junio C Hamano
2026-02-27 19:37   ` Jeff King
2026-03-02 12:12     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-02 18:20       ` Jeff King
2026-03-03  9:31         ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-03 13:35           ` Jeff King [this message]
2026-03-03 13:47             ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-03 15:00 ` [PATCH v2 00/10] " Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-03 15:00   ` [PATCH v2 01/10] upload-pack: fix debug statement when flushing " Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-03 15:00   ` [PATCH v2 02/10] upload-pack: adapt keepalives based on buffering Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-05  0:56     ` Jeff King
2026-03-10 12:08       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-03 15:00   ` [PATCH v2 03/10] upload-pack: reduce lock contention when writing packfile data Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-05  1:16     ` Jeff King
2026-03-10 12:14       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-03 15:00   ` [PATCH v2 04/10] git-compat-util: introduce `cast_size_t_to_ssize_t()` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-03 15:00   ` [PATCH v2 05/10] compat/posix: introduce writev(3p) wrapper Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-04 22:01     ` Junio C Hamano
2026-03-05  0:37       ` Jeff King
2026-03-05  2:16         ` brian m. carlson
2026-03-05  6:39           ` Johannes Sixt
2026-03-05 22:22             ` brian m. carlson
2026-03-10 12:09               ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-03 15:00   ` [PATCH v2 06/10] wrapper: introduce writev(3p) wrappers Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-03 15:00   ` [PATCH v2 07/10] sideband: use writev(3p) to send pktlines Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-04 22:05     ` Junio C Hamano
2026-03-03 15:00   ` [PATCH v2 08/10] csum-file: introduce `hashfd_ext()` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-04 22:11     ` Junio C Hamano
2026-03-10 12:09       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-03 15:00   ` [PATCH v2 09/10] csum-file: drop `hashfd_throughput()` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-03 15:00   ` [PATCH v2 10/10] builtin/pack-objects: reduce lock contention when writing packfile data Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-10 13:24 ` [PATCH v3 00/10] upload-pack: " Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-10 13:24   ` [PATCH v3 01/10] upload-pack: fix debug statement when flushing " Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-10 13:24   ` [PATCH v3 02/10] upload-pack: adapt keepalives based on buffering Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-10 13:24   ` [PATCH v3 03/10] upload-pack: prefer flushing data over sending keepalive Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-10 17:09     ` Junio C Hamano
2026-03-10 17:43       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-10 13:25   ` [PATCH v3 04/10] upload-pack: reduce lock contention when writing packfile data Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-10 13:25   ` [PATCH v3 05/10] compat/posix: introduce writev(3p) wrapper Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-10 16:59     ` Junio C Hamano
2026-03-10 13:25   ` [PATCH v3 06/10] wrapper: introduce writev(3p) wrappers Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-10 13:25   ` [PATCH v3 07/10] sideband: use writev(3p) to send pktlines Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-10 13:25   ` [PATCH v3 08/10] csum-file: introduce `hashfd_ext()` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-10 13:25   ` [PATCH v3 09/10] csum-file: drop `hashfd_throughput()` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-10 13:25   ` [PATCH v3 10/10] builtin/pack-objects: reduce lock contention when writing packfile data Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-10 17:11   ` [PATCH v3 00/10] upload-pack: " Junio C Hamano
2026-03-10 20:56   ` Johannes Sixt
2026-03-11  6:27     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-13  6:45 ` [PATCH v4 " Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-13  6:45   ` [PATCH v4 01/10] upload-pack: fix debug statement when flushing " Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-13  6:45   ` [PATCH v4 02/10] upload-pack: adapt keepalives based on buffering Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-13  6:45   ` [PATCH v4 03/10] upload-pack: prefer flushing data over sending keepalive Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-13  6:45   ` [PATCH v4 04/10] upload-pack: reduce lock contention when writing packfile data Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-13  6:45   ` [PATCH v4 05/10] compat/posix: introduce writev(3p) wrapper Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-13  6:45   ` [PATCH v4 06/10] wrapper: introduce writev(3p) wrappers Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-13  6:45   ` [PATCH v4 07/10] sideband: use writev(3p) to send pktlines Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-13  6:45   ` [PATCH v4 08/10] csum-file: introduce `hashfd_ext()` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-13  6:45   ` [PATCH v4 09/10] csum-file: drop `hashfd_throughput()` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-13  6:45   ` [PATCH v4 10/10] builtin/pack-objects: reduce lock contention when writing packfile data Patrick Steinhardt

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