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From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: "SZEDER Gábor" <szeder.dev@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, "Denton Liu" <liu.denton@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] test-lib-functions: use BUG() in 'test_must_fail'
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2026 18:18:07 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260414221807.GB3475104@coredump.intra.peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqv7dt8cyj.fsf@gitster.g>

On Tue, Apr 14, 2026 at 02:11:00PM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote:

> I was wondering if we should remove "test_might_fail".  Its use case
> is rather limited to very narrow cases, like
> 
>  * we want to kill something but it may have exited on its own
> 
>  * we want "git config --unset" but the variable may or may not be set
> 
>  * we want "git foo --abort" just in case we are in the middle of
>    "git foo"
> 
> all of which is clearer with "|| :", and more importantly, the thing
> whose "failure" is protected against the test framework declaring a
> test failure is *not* what we are testing (these "config --unset"
> are not about testing "git config", in other words).
> 
> So the extra ability test_must_fail and test_might_fail have that
> they can detect uncontrolled death with non-zero exit status (aka
> "crash") is not very interesting---it is more like "As we are
> running a git command here, it would be better to catch than not
> catch a segfault here as well", i.e., a nice to have item.

I think the main value of both (but especially test_might_fail) is that
they slot naturally into &&-chains. I left a similar comment in that
other thread, but to expand a bit, if you do:

  false &&
  true || : &&
  echo everything ok

you will get "everything ok", even though step 1 failed. You need:

  false &&
  { true || : } &&
  echo everything ok

except that because it is shell you have to add an extra semicolon after
the ":". ;)

Syntax-complaints aside, I think it is a very easy thing for
contributors to get wrong. So I think test_might_fail has value, though
I do not care if it has a different name.

-Peff

  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-14 22:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-21 19:25 [PATCH 1/2] tests: don't mess with fd 7 of test helper functions SZEDER Gábor
2021-02-21 19:25 ` [PATCH 2/2] test-lib-functions: use BUG() in 'test_must_fail' SZEDER Gábor
2021-02-21 21:58   ` Jeff King
2021-02-22 19:11     ` Jeff King
2021-02-22 19:17       ` Jeff King
2021-02-22 20:02         ` Junio C Hamano
2026-04-14 20:52     ` SZEDER Gábor
2026-04-14 21:11       ` Junio C Hamano
2026-04-14 22:18         ` Jeff King [this message]
2026-04-15 15:25           ` Junio C Hamano
2026-04-14 22:14       ` Jeff King
2021-02-21 21:50 ` [PATCH 1/2] tests: don't mess with fd 7 of test helper functions Jeff King
2021-02-22 17:45   ` Junio C Hamano

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