From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: "SZEDER Gábor" <szeder.dev@gmail.com>,
git@vger.kernel.org, "Denton Liu" <liu.denton@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] test-lib-functions: use BUG() in 'test_must_fail'
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2026 18:18:07 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260414221807.GB3475104@coredump.intra.peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqv7dt8cyj.fsf@gitster.g>
On Tue, Apr 14, 2026 at 02:11:00PM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> I was wondering if we should remove "test_might_fail". Its use case
> is rather limited to very narrow cases, like
>
> * we want to kill something but it may have exited on its own
>
> * we want "git config --unset" but the variable may or may not be set
>
> * we want "git foo --abort" just in case we are in the middle of
> "git foo"
>
> all of which is clearer with "|| :", and more importantly, the thing
> whose "failure" is protected against the test framework declaring a
> test failure is *not* what we are testing (these "config --unset"
> are not about testing "git config", in other words).
>
> So the extra ability test_must_fail and test_might_fail have that
> they can detect uncontrolled death with non-zero exit status (aka
> "crash") is not very interesting---it is more like "As we are
> running a git command here, it would be better to catch than not
> catch a segfault here as well", i.e., a nice to have item.
I think the main value of both (but especially test_might_fail) is that
they slot naturally into &&-chains. I left a similar comment in that
other thread, but to expand a bit, if you do:
false &&
true || : &&
echo everything ok
you will get "everything ok", even though step 1 failed. You need:
false &&
{ true || : } &&
echo everything ok
except that because it is shell you have to add an extra semicolon after
the ":". ;)
Syntax-complaints aside, I think it is a very easy thing for
contributors to get wrong. So I think test_might_fail has value, though
I do not care if it has a different name.
-Peff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-04-14 22:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-02-21 19:25 [PATCH 1/2] tests: don't mess with fd 7 of test helper functions SZEDER Gábor
2021-02-21 19:25 ` [PATCH 2/2] test-lib-functions: use BUG() in 'test_must_fail' SZEDER Gábor
2021-02-21 21:58 ` Jeff King
2021-02-22 19:11 ` Jeff King
2021-02-22 19:17 ` Jeff King
2021-02-22 20:02 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-04-14 20:52 ` SZEDER Gábor
2026-04-14 21:11 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-04-14 22:18 ` Jeff King [this message]
2026-04-15 15:25 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-04-14 22:14 ` Jeff King
2021-02-21 21:50 ` [PATCH 1/2] tests: don't mess with fd 7 of test helper functions Jeff King
2021-02-22 17:45 ` Junio C Hamano
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