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Dropped the trailer. You will not see it again. On origin: this comes out of git's own tree, not an outside corpus, and that is why every claim in the message names a file or a commit you can check. The change here is one line, timestamp_t date; becoming timestamp_t date = 0;. I read the whole thing and can explain any line of it, and the sign-off is what carries that. v3 uses your wording for the first paragraph and explains why zero is the right fallback rather than "now" or a fixed age.