From: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
To: Neeraj Singh <nksingh85@gmail.com>
Cc: Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
Git List <git@vger.kernel.org>,
"Randall S. Becker" <rsbecker@nexbridge.com>,
Bagas Sanjaya <bagasdotme@gmail.com>,
Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com>, Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>,
Neeraj Singh <neerajsi@microsoft.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/3] core.fsync: introduce granular fsync control
Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2021 11:05:30 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <211208.86ee6nmme5.gmgdl@evledraar.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANQDOdfX2KaosPwLM4hS4rp+FH9V7VUxUh_md43FfZ9NG4iroQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Dec 07 2021, Neeraj Singh wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 5:01 AM Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason <avarab@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 07 2021, Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget wrote:
>>
>> > From: Neeraj Singh <neerajsi@microsoft.com>
>> >
>> > This commit introduces the `core.fsync` configuration
>> > knob which can be used to control how components of the
>> > repository are made durable on disk.
>> >
>> > This setting allows future extensibility of the list of
>> > syncable components:
>> > * We issue a warning rather than an error for unrecognized
>> > components, so new configs can be used with old Git versions.
>>
>> Looks good!
>>
>> > * We support negation, so users can choose one of the default
>> > aggregate options and then remove components that they don't
>> > want. The user would then harden any new components added in
>> > a Git version update.
>>
>> I think this config schema makes sense, but just a (I think important)
>> comment on the "how" not "what" of it. It's really much better to define
>> config as:
>>
>> [some]
>> key = value
>> key = value2
>>
>> Than:
>>
>> [some]
>> key = value,value2
>>
>> The reason is that "git config" has good support for working with
>> multi-valued stuff, so you can do e.g.:
>>
>> git config --get-all -z some.key
>>
>> And you can easily (re)set such config e.g. with --replace-all etc., but
>> for comma-delimited you (and users) need to do all that work themselves.
>>
>> Similarly instead of:
>>
>> some.key = want-this
>> some.key = -not-this
>> some.key = but-want-this
>>
>> I think it's better to just have two lists, one inclusive another
>> exclusive. E.g. see "log.decorate" and "log.excludeDecoration",
>> "transfer.hideRefs"
>>
>> Which would mean:
>>
>> core.fsync = want-this
>> core.fsyncExcludes = -not-this
>>
>> For some value of "fsyncExcludes", maybe "noFsync"? Anyway, just a
>> suggestion on making this easier for users & the implementation.
>>
>
> Maybe there's some way to handle this I'm unaware of, but a
> disadvantage of your multi-valued config proposal is that it's harder,
> for example, for a per-repo config store to reasonably override a
> per-user config store. With the configuration scheme as-is, I can
> have a per-user setting like `core.fsync=all` which covers my typical
> repos, but then have a maintainer repo with a private setting of
> `core.fsync=none` to speed up cases where I'm mostly working with
> other people's changes that are backed up in email or server-side
> repos. The latter setting conveniently overrides the former setting
> in all aspects.
Even if you turn just your comma-delimited proposal into a list proposal
can't we just say that the last one wins? Then it won't matter what cmae
before, you'd specify "core.fsync=none" in your local .git/config.
But this is also a general issue with a bunch of things in git's config
space. I'd rather see us use the list-based values and just come up with
some general way to reset them that works for all keys, rather than
regretting having comma-delimited values that'll be harder to work with
& parse, which will be a legacy wart if/when we come up with a way to
say "reset all previous settings".
> Also, with the core.fsync and core.fsyncExcludes, how would you spell
> "don't sync anything"? Would you still have the aggregate options.?
core.fsyncExcludes = *
I.e. the same as the core.fsync=none above, anyway I still like the
wildcard thing below a bit more...
>> > This also supports the common request of doing absolutely no
>> > fysncing with the `core.fsync=none` value, which is expected
>> > to make the test suite faster.
>>
>> Let's just use the git_parse_maybe_bool() or git_parse_maybe_bool_text()
>> so we'll accept "false", "off", "no" like most other such config?
>
> Junio's previous feedback when discussing batch mode [1] was to offer
> less flexibility when parsing new values of these configuration
> options. I agree with his statement that "making machine-readable
> tokens be spelled in different ways is a 'disease'." I'd like to
> leave this as-is so that the documentation can clearly state the exact
> set of allowable values.
>
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/git/xmqqr1dqzyl7.fsf@gitster.g/
I think he's talking about batch, Batch, BATCH, bAtCh etc. there. But
the "maybe bool" is a stanard pattern we use.
I don't think we'd call one of these 0, off, no or false etc. to avoid
confusion, so then you can use git_parse_maybe_...()
>>
>> > Signed-off-by: Neeraj Singh <neerajsi@microsoft.com>
>> > ---
>> > Documentation/config/core.txt | 27 +++++++++----
>> > builtin/fast-import.c | 2 +-
>> > builtin/index-pack.c | 4 +-
>> > builtin/pack-objects.c | 8 ++--
>> > bulk-checkin.c | 5 ++-
>> > cache.h | 39 +++++++++++++++++-
>> > commit-graph.c | 3 +-
>> > config.c | 76 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
>> > csum-file.c | 5 ++-
>> > csum-file.h | 3 +-
>> > environment.c | 1 +
>> > midx.c | 3 +-
>> > object-file.c | 3 +-
>> > pack-bitmap-write.c | 3 +-
>> > pack-write.c | 13 +++---
>> > read-cache.c | 2 +-
>> > 16 files changed, 164 insertions(+), 33 deletions(-)
>> >
>> > diff --git a/Documentation/config/core.txt b/Documentation/config/core.txt
>> > index dbb134f7136..4f1747ec871 100644
>> > --- a/Documentation/config/core.txt
>> > +++ b/Documentation/config/core.txt
>> > @@ -547,6 +547,25 @@ core.whitespace::
>> > is relevant for `indent-with-non-tab` and when Git fixes `tab-in-indent`
>> > errors. The default tab width is 8. Allowed values are 1 to 63.
>> >
>> > +core.fsync::
>> > + A comma-separated list of parts of the repository which should be
>> > + hardened via the core.fsyncMethod when created or modified. You can
>> > + disable hardening of any component by prefixing it with a '-'. Later
>> > + items take precedence over earlier ones in the list. For example,
>> > + `core.fsync=all,-pack-metadata` means "harden everything except pack
>> > + metadata." Items that are not hardened may be lost in the event of an
>> > + unclean system shutdown.
>> > ++
>> > +* `none` disables fsync completely. This must be specified alone.
>> > +* `loose-object` hardens objects added to the repo in loose-object form.
>> > +* `pack` hardens objects added to the repo in packfile form.
>> > +* `pack-metadata` hardens packfile bitmaps and indexes.
>> > +* `commit-graph` hardens the commit graph file.
>> > +* `objects` is an aggregate option that includes `loose-objects`, `pack`,
>> > + `pack-metadata`, and `commit-graph`.
>> > +* `default` is an aggregate option that is equivalent to `objects,-loose-object`
>> > +* `all` is an aggregate option that syncs all individual components above.
>> > +
>>
>> It's probably a *bit* more work to set up, but I wonder if this wouldn't
>> be simpler if we just said (and this is partially going against what I
>> noted above):
>>
>> == BEGIN DOC
>>
>> core.fsync is a multi-value config variable where each item is a
>> pathspec that'll get matched the same way as 'git-ls-files' et al.
>>
>> When we sync pretend that a path like .git/objects/de/adbeef... is
>> relative to the top-level of the git
>> directory. E.g. "objects/de/adbeaf.." or "objects/pack/...".
>>
>> You can then supply a list of wildcards and exclusions to configure
>> syncing. or "false", "off" etc. to turn it off. These are synonymous
>> with:
>>
>> ; same as "false"
>> core.fsync = ":!*"
>>
>> Or:
>>
>> ; same as "true"
>> core.fsync = "*"
>>
>> Or, to selectively sync some things and not others:
>>
>> ;; Sync objects, but not "info"
>> core.fsync = ":!objects/info/**"
>> core.fsync = "objects/**"
>>
>> See gitrepository-layout(5) for details about what sort of paths you
>> might be expected to match. Not all paths listed there will go through
>> this mechanism (e.g. currently objects do, but nothing to do with config
>> does).
>>
>> We can and will match this against "fake paths", e.g. when writing out
>> packs we may match against just the string "objects/pack", we're not
>> going to re-check if every packfile we're writing matches your globs,
>> ditto for loose objects. Be reasonable!
>>
>> This metharism is intended as a shorthand that provides some flexibility
>> when fsyncing, while not forcing git to come up with labels for all
>> paths the git dir, or to support crazyness like "objects/de/adbeef*"
>>
>> More paths may be added or removed in the future, and we make no
>> promises that we won't move things around, so if in doubt use
>> e.g. "true" or a wide pattern match like "objects/**". When in doubt
>> stick to the golden path of examples provided in this documentation.
>>
>> == END DOC
>>
>>
>> It's a tad more complex to set up, but I wonder if that isn't worth
>> it. It nicely gets around any current and future issues of deciding what
>> labels such as "loose-object" etc. to pick, as well as slotting into an
>> existing method of doing exclude/include lists.
>>
>
> I think this proposal is a lot of complexity to avoid coming up with a
> new name for syncable things as they are added to Git. A path based
> mechanism makes it hard to document for the (advanced) user what the
> full set of things is and how it might change from release to release.
> I think the current core.fsync scheme is a bit easier to understand,
> query, and extend.
We document it in gitrepository-layout(5). Yeah it has some
disadvantages, but one advantage is that you could make the
composability easy. I.e. if last exclude wins then a setting of:
core.fsync = ":!*"
core.fsync = "objects/**"
Would reset all previous matches & only match objects/**.
>> > diff --git a/builtin/pack-objects.c b/builtin/pack-objects.c
>> > index 857be7826f3..916c55d6ce9 100644
>> > --- a/builtin/pack-objects.c
>> > +++ b/builtin/pack-objects.c
>> > @@ -1204,11 +1204,13 @@ static void write_pack_file(void)
>> > * If so, rewrite it like in fast-import
>> > */
>> > if (pack_to_stdout) {
>> > - finalize_hashfile(f, hash, CSUM_HASH_IN_STREAM | CSUM_CLOSE);
>> > + finalize_hashfile(f, hash, FSYNC_COMPONENT_NONE,
>> > + CSUM_HASH_IN_STREAM | CSUM_CLOSE);
>>
>> Not really related to this per-se, but since you're touching the API
>> everything goes through I wonder if callers should just always try to
>> fsync, and we can just catch EROFS and EINVAL in the wrapper if someone
>> tries to flush stdout, or catch the fd at that lower level.
>>
>> Or maybe there's a good reason for this...
>
> It's platform dependent, but I'd expect fsync would do something for
> pipes or stdout redirected to a file. In these cases we really don't
> want to fsync since we have no idea what we're talking to and we're
> potentially worsening performance for probably no benefit.
Yeah maybe we should just leave it be.
I'd think the C library returning EINVAL would be a trivial performance
cost though.
It just seemed odd to hardcode assumptions about what can and can't be
synced when the POSIX defined function will also tell us that.
Anyway...
>> > [...]
>> > +/*
>> > + * These values are used to help identify parts of a repository to fsync.
>> > + * FSYNC_COMPONENT_NONE identifies data that will not be a persistent part of the
>> > + * repository and so shouldn't be fsynced.
>> > + */
>> > +enum fsync_component {
>> > + FSYNC_COMPONENT_NONE = 0,
>>
>> I haven't read ahead much but in most other such cases we don't define
>> the "= 0", just start at 1<<0, then check the flags elsewhere...
>>
>> > +static const struct fsync_component_entry {
>> > + const char *name;
>> > + enum fsync_component component_bits;
>> > +} fsync_component_table[] = {
>> > + { "loose-object", FSYNC_COMPONENT_LOOSE_OBJECT },
>> > + { "pack", FSYNC_COMPONENT_PACK },
>> > + { "pack-metadata", FSYNC_COMPONENT_PACK_METADATA },
>> > + { "commit-graph", FSYNC_COMPONENT_COMMIT_GRAPH },
>> > + { "objects", FSYNC_COMPONENTS_OBJECTS },
>> > + { "default", FSYNC_COMPONENTS_DEFAULT },
>> > + { "all", FSYNC_COMPONENTS_ALL },
>> > +};
>> > +
>> > +static enum fsync_component parse_fsync_components(const char *var, const char *string)
>> > +{
>> > + enum fsync_component output = 0;
>> > +
>> > + if (!strcmp(string, "none"))
>> > + return output;
>> > +
>> > + while (string) {
>> > + int i;
>> > + size_t len;
>> > + const char *ep;
>> > + int negated = 0;
>> > + int found = 0;
>> > +
>> > + string = string + strspn(string, ", \t\n\r");
>>
>> Aside from the "use a list" isn't this hardcoding some windows-specific
>> assumptions with \n\r? Maybe not...
>
> I shamelessly stole this code from parse_whitespace_rule. I thought
> about making a helper to be called by both functions, but the amount
> of state going into and out of the wrapper via arguments was
> substantial and seemed to negate the benefit of deduplication.
FWIW string_list_split() is easier to work with in those cases, or at
least I think so...
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2021-12-04 3:28 [PATCH 0/2] A design for future-proofing fsync() configuration Neeraj K. Singh via GitGitGadget
2021-12-04 3:28 ` [PATCH 1/2] fsync: add writeout-only mode for fsyncing repo data Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2021-12-06 7:54 ` Neeraj Singh
2021-12-04 3:28 ` [PATCH 2/2] core.fsync: introduce granular fsync control Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2021-12-07 2:46 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] A design for future-proofing fsync() configuration Neeraj K. Singh via GitGitGadget
2021-12-07 2:46 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] core.fsyncmethod: add writeout-only mode Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2021-12-07 11:44 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2021-12-07 12:14 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-07 23:29 ` Neeraj Singh
2021-12-07 12:18 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-07 23:58 ` Neeraj Singh
2021-12-07 2:46 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] core.fsync: introduce granular fsync control Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2021-12-07 11:53 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2021-12-07 20:46 ` Neeraj Singh
2021-12-07 12:29 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-07 21:44 ` Neeraj Singh
2021-12-08 10:05 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason [this message]
2021-12-09 0:14 ` Neeraj Singh
2021-12-09 0:44 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-12-09 4:08 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-09 6:18 ` Neeraj Singh
2022-01-18 23:50 ` Neeraj Singh
2022-01-19 15:28 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-19 14:52 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-28 1:28 ` Neeraj Singh
2021-12-07 2:46 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] core.fsync: new option to harden the index Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2021-12-07 11:56 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] A design for future-proofing fsync() configuration Patrick Steinhardt
2021-12-08 0:44 ` Neeraj Singh
2021-12-09 0:57 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] " Neeraj K. Singh via GitGitGadget
2021-12-09 0:57 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] core.fsyncmethod: add writeout-only mode Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2021-12-09 0:57 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] core.fsync: introduce granular fsync control Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2021-12-09 0:57 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] core.fsync: new option to harden the index Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2021-12-09 0:57 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] core.fsync: add a `derived-metadata` aggregate option Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-01-08 1:13 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] A design for future-proofing fsync() configuration Neeraj Singh
2022-01-09 0:55 ` rsbecker
2022-01-10 19:00 ` Neeraj Singh
2022-02-01 3:33 ` [PATCH v4 " Neeraj K. Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-02-01 3:33 ` [PATCH v4 1/4] core.fsyncmethod: add writeout-only mode Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-02-01 3:33 ` [PATCH v4 2/4] core.fsync: introduce granular fsync control Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-02-02 0:51 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-02 1:42 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-11 21:18 ` Neeraj Singh
2022-02-11 22:19 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-11 23:04 ` Neeraj Singh
2022-02-11 23:15 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-12 0:39 ` rsbecker
2022-02-14 7:04 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2022-02-14 17:17 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-09 13:42 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2022-03-09 18:50 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-09 20:03 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-10 12:33 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2022-03-10 17:15 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-09 20:05 ` Neeraj Singh
2022-02-11 20:38 ` Neeraj Singh
2022-02-01 3:33 ` [PATCH v4 3/4] core.fsync: new option to harden the index Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-02-01 3:33 ` [PATCH v4 4/4] core.fsync: add a `derived-metadata` aggregate option Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-09 23:03 ` [PATCH v5 0/5] A design for future-proofing fsync() configuration Neeraj K. Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-09 23:03 ` [PATCH v5 1/5] wrapper: move inclusion of CSPRNG headers the wrapper.c file Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-09 23:29 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-10 1:21 ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-10 1:26 ` brian m. carlson
2022-03-10 1:56 ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-09 23:03 ` [PATCH v5 2/5] core.fsyncmethod: add writeout-only mode Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-09 23:48 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-09 23:03 ` [PATCH v5 3/5] core.fsync: introduce granular fsync control Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-10 0:21 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-10 2:53 ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-10 7:19 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-10 18:38 ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-10 18:44 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-10 19:57 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-10 20:25 ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-10 21:17 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-10 13:11 ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-03-10 17:18 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-09 23:03 ` [PATCH v5 4/5] core.fsync: new option to harden the index Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-09 23:03 ` [PATCH v5 5/5] core.fsync: documentation and user-friendly aggregate options Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-10 9:53 ` Future-proofed syncing of refs Patrick Steinhardt
2022-03-10 9:53 ` [PATCH 6/8] core.fsync: add `fsync_component()` wrapper which doesn't die Patrick Steinhardt
2022-03-10 17:34 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-10 18:40 ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-10 9:53 ` [PATCH 7/8] core.fsync: new option to harden loose references Patrick Steinhardt
2022-03-10 18:25 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-10 19:03 ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-10 22:54 ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-11 6:40 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-11 9:15 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2022-03-11 9:36 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-10 9:53 ` [PATCH 8/8] core.fsync: new option to harden packed references Patrick Steinhardt
2022-03-10 18:28 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-11 9:10 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2022-03-10 22:43 ` [PATCH v6 0/6] A design for future-proofing fsync() configuration Neeraj K. Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-10 22:43 ` [PATCH v6 1/6] wrapper: make inclusion of Windows csprng header tightly scoped Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-10 22:43 ` [PATCH v6 2/6] core.fsyncmethod: add writeout-only mode Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-10 22:43 ` [PATCH v6 3/6] core.fsync: introduce granular fsync control infrastructure Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-10 22:43 ` [PATCH v6 4/6] core.fsync: add configuration parsing Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-28 11:06 ` Jiang Xin
2022-03-28 19:45 ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-10 22:43 ` [PATCH v6 5/6] core.fsync: new option to harden the index Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-10 22:43 ` [PATCH v6 6/6] core.fsync: documentation and user-friendly aggregate options Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget
2022-03-15 19:12 ` [PATCH v7] " Neeraj Singh
2022-03-15 19:32 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-15 19:56 ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-23 14:20 ` do we have too much fsync() configuration in 'next'? (was: [PATCH v7] core.fsync: documentation and user-friendly aggregate options) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-25 21:24 ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-26 0:24 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-26 1:23 ` do we have too much fsync() configuration in 'next'? Junio C Hamano
2022-03-26 1:25 ` do we have too much fsync() configuration in 'next'? (was: [PATCH v7] core.fsync: documentation and user-friendly aggregate options) Neeraj Singh
2022-03-26 15:31 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-27 5:27 ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-27 12:43 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-28 10:56 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2022-03-28 11:25 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-28 19:56 ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-30 16:59 ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-10 23:34 ` [PATCH v6 0/6] A design for future-proofing fsync() configuration Junio C Hamano
2022-03-11 0:03 ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-11 18:50 ` Neeraj Singh
2022-03-13 23:50 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-11 9:58 ` [PATCH v2] core.fsync: new option to harden references Patrick Steinhardt
2022-03-25 6:11 ` SZEDER Gábor
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