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From: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
To: tytso <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: "Tao Klerks" <tao@klerks.biz>,
	"Michal Suchánek" <msuchanek@suse.de>,
	rsbecker@nexbridge.com,
	"brian m. carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net>,
	jurgen_gjoncari@icloud.com, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Make commit messages optional
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2022 22:10:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <220411.86k0bvidja.gmgdl@evledraar.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YlRyHR5rvG5P/Acr@mit.edu>


On Mon, Apr 11 2022, tytso wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 12:19:51PM +0200, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
>> > and the main argument *against* is "for most
>> > people (non-advanced users), what you do initially is what you end up
>> > pushing, or at least trying to push, and fixing things later is *hard*
>> > - it requires a much deeper understanding of git than most people
>> > otherwise necessarily need to develop".
>> 
>> Yes, maybe it won't be viable to go in that direction, but re this in my
>> [1]:
>> 	
>> 	But I'm also pretty sure that those people are engaged in a proxy war,
>> 	and we should just attack the "problem" directly instead. I.e. it's not
>> 	a problem that some commit somewhere has an empty message, rather it's
>> 	that such a commit gets "propagated". A better place to check for it is
>> 	then at the point of point of propagation.
>
> So possible options we could consider:
>
> 1) Do nothing.  If users want to override the current behavior they
> can just put in their .git/config or ~/.gitconfig file:
>
> [alias]
>    commit = commit --allow-empty-message

You cannot use aliases to override built-in commands, so this won't
work.

> 2) Add some kind of explicit git-config option which could then be
> added to their .git/config or ~/.gitconfig:
>
> [commit]
>    allow-empty-description = true
>
> 3) Change the default, so that --allow-empty-message is always
> implied, and hope that novices can figure out git rebase -i without
> shooting themselves in the foot.
>
> 4) Enforce git push doesn't push commits with empty commits,
> implemented on the client side.  This could be implemented via a
> pre-push hook script.
>
> 5)  Enforce git push doesn't push commits with empty commits,
> implemented on the server side.This could be implemented via a
> pre-receive hook script.
>
> I will note that only options 2 and 3 require source code changes to
> git.  The rest can effectively be done via config file changes; for
> the hook files, we could provide example scripts to make it easier for
> people to choose that particular option.
>
> And of these options, only one option, #3, requires imposing someone's
> preference (which does appear to be in the minority) on everyone
> else.

We could add configuration or whatever, but the topic of this thread is
whether we should change the *default*. I think it's better to stick to
that.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-11 20:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-08  3:35 Make commit messages optional jurgen_gjoncari
2022-04-08  8:02 ` Christian Couder
2022-04-08 11:26   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-04-08 19:25     ` Erik Cervin Edin
2022-04-11 10:24       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-04-11 17:59         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-04-11 18:18           ` Michal Suchánek
2022-04-11 21:09             ` Junio C Hamano
2022-04-08  8:15 ` Philip Oakley
2022-04-08 14:32 ` Phillip Susi
2022-04-08 22:30 ` brian m. carlson
2022-04-08 23:32   ` rsbecker
2022-04-09 11:32     ` Michal Suchánek
2022-04-10 13:59       ` Tao Klerks
2022-04-10 15:00         ` rsbecker
2022-04-10 15:18           ` rsbecker
2022-04-10 16:27             ` Tao Klerks
2022-04-13  5:40               ` Jonathan Nieder
2022-04-11  9:04           ` demerphq
2022-04-11 11:35             ` rsbecker
2022-04-11 10:19         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-04-11 12:39           ` Tao Klerks
2022-04-11 18:09             ` Junio C Hamano
2022-04-11 18:15               ` Michal Suchánek
2022-04-11 18:23           ` tytso
2022-04-11 20:10             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason [this message]
2022-04-14 14:46               ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-04-14 16:43                 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-04-14 17:25                   ` Junio C Hamano

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