From: "Sean" <seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
To: "Tom Lord" <lord@emf.net>
Cc: torvalds@osdl.org, mpm@selenic.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Mercurial 0.4b vs git patchbomb benchmark
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:33:40 -0400 (EDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2712.10.10.10.24.1114799620.squirrel@linux1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200504291808.LAA25870@emf.net>
On Fri, April 29, 2005 2:08 pm, Tom Lord said:
> The confusion here is that you are talking about computational complexity
> while I am talking about complexity measured in hours of labor.
>
> You are assuming that the programmer generating the signature blindly
> trusts the tool to generate the signed document accurately. I am
> saying that it should be tractable for human beings to read the documents
> they are going to sign.
Developers obviously _do_ read the changes they submit to a project or
they would lose their trusted status. That has absolutely nothing to do
with signing, it's the exact same way things work today, without sigs.
It's not "blind trust" to expect a script to reproducibly sign documents
you've decided to submit to a project. The signature is not a QUALITY
guarantee in and of itself. It doesn't mean you have any additional
responsibility to remove all bugs before submitting. Conversely, not
signing something doesn't mean you can submit crap.
See? Signing something does not change the quality guarantee one way or
the other. It does not put any additional demands on the developer, so
it's fine to have an automated script do it. It's just a way to avoid
impersonations.
Sean
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-04-29 18:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 126+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-04-26 0:41 Mercurial 0.3 vs git benchmarks Matt Mackall
2005-04-26 1:49 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-04-26 2:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-26 2:30 ` Mike Taht
2005-04-26 3:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-26 4:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-26 11:13 ` Chris Mason
2005-04-26 15:09 ` Magnus Damm
2005-04-26 15:38 ` Chris Mason
2005-04-26 16:23 ` Magnus Damm
2005-04-26 18:18 ` Chris Mason
2005-04-26 20:56 ` Andrew Morton
2005-04-26 21:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-26 22:50 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-04-26 22:56 ` Andrew Morton
2005-04-26 23:43 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-04-27 15:01 ` Florian Weimer
2005-04-27 15:13 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2005-04-27 18:54 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-04-27 19:01 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2005-04-27 19:57 ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-04-27 20:06 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2005-04-27 20:35 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-04-27 20:39 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2005-04-27 20:47 ` Florian Weimer
2005-04-27 20:55 ` Florian Weimer
2005-04-27 21:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-04-27 21:06 ` Florian Weimer
2005-04-27 21:32 ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-04-27 19:55 ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-04-27 6:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-04-27 21:10 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-04-27 21:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-26 16:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-26 17:39 ` Chris Mason
2005-04-26 19:52 ` Chris Mason
2005-04-26 18:15 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-04-26 20:30 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-04-26 16:11 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-04-26 4:01 ` Matt Mackall
2005-04-26 4:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-26 4:09 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-26 4:22 ` Andreas Gal
2005-04-26 4:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-29 6:01 ` Mercurial 0.4b vs git patchbomb benchmark Matt Mackall
2005-04-29 6:40 ` Sean
2005-04-29 7:40 ` Matt Mackall
2005-04-29 8:40 ` Sean
2005-04-29 14:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-29 15:18 ` Morten Welinder
2005-04-29 16:52 ` Matt Mackall
2005-05-02 16:10 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-05-02 19:02 ` Sean
2005-05-02 22:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-05-02 22:30 ` Matt Mackall
2005-05-02 22:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-05-03 0:00 ` Matt Mackall
2005-05-03 2:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-05-03 3:29 ` Matt Mackall
2005-05-03 4:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-05-03 4:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-05-03 4:27 ` Matt Mackall
2005-05-03 8:45 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-29 15:44 ` Tom Lord
2005-04-29 15:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-29 17:34 ` Tom Lord
2005-04-29 17:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-29 18:08 ` Tom Lord
2005-04-29 18:33 ` Sean [this message]
2005-04-29 18:54 ` Tom Lord
2005-04-29 19:13 ` Sean
2005-04-29 19:22 ` Tom Lord
2005-04-29 19:28 ` Tom Lord
2005-04-29 19:47 ` Noel Maddy
2005-04-29 19:54 ` Tom Lord
2005-04-29 20:13 ` Andrew Timberlake-Newell
2005-04-29 20:26 ` Tom Lord
2005-04-29 20:57 ` Andrew Timberlake-Newell
2005-04-29 20:16 ` Morgan Schweers
2005-04-29 20:21 ` Noel Maddy
2005-04-29 20:42 ` git network protocol David Lang
2005-04-29 21:15 ` Daniel Barkalow
2005-04-29 20:44 ` Mercurial 0.4b vs git patchbomb benchmark Tom Lord
2005-04-29 21:57 ` Denys Duchier
2005-04-29 20:29 ` Signed commit vulnerabilities? (was: Mercurial 0.4b vs git patchbomb benchmark) Kevin Smith
2005-04-29 21:45 ` Mercurial 0.4b vs git patchbomb benchmark Horst von Brand
2005-05-02 21:06 ` Tom Lord
2005-05-03 0:24 ` Kevin Smith
2005-05-02 16:15 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-04-29 16:37 ` Matt Mackall
2005-04-29 17:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-29 19:12 ` Matt Mackall
2005-04-29 19:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-29 20:23 ` Matt Mackall
2005-04-29 20:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-29 21:20 ` Matt Mackall
2005-04-29 16:46 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-04-29 20:19 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-04-29 22:30 ` Olivier Galibert
2005-04-29 22:47 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-04-29 20:30 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-04-29 20:39 ` Matt Mackall
2005-04-30 2:52 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-04-30 15:20 ` Matt Mackall
2005-04-30 16:37 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-05-02 15:49 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-05-02 16:14 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-05-03 17:40 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-05-04 2:10 ` Mercurial 0.4b vs git patchbomb benchmark (/usr/bin/env again) David A. Wheeler
2005-05-02 16:17 ` Mercurial 0.4b vs git patchbomb benchmark Andrea Arcangeli
2005-05-02 16:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-05-02 17:18 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-05-02 17:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-05-02 18:17 ` Edgar Toernig
2005-05-02 20:54 ` Sam Ravnborg
2005-05-02 17:20 ` Ryan Anderson
2005-05-02 17:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-05-02 21:17 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-05-03 17:43 ` Bill Davidsen
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-04-30 14:44 Adam J. Richter
2005-04-30 16:06 ` Matt Mackall
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2005-05-03 1:16 ` Bodo Eggert <harvested.in.lkml@posting.7eggert.dyndns.org>
2005-05-03 1:29 ` Matt Mackall
2005-05-03 16:22 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-05-03 17:14 ` Rene Scharfe
2005-05-04 17:51 ` Bill Davidsen
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