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From: "Richard Hartmann" <richih.mailinglist@gmail.com>
To: "Jeff King" <peff@peff.net>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Feedback outside of the user survey
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 13:08:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2d460de70810160408x784a657fte418d41dd6a06d7f@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081016102835.GC20762@sigill.intra.peff.net>

On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 12:28, Jeff King <peff@peff.net> wrote:

> Is there something about these that doesn't meet your criteria? Or did
> you not know about them (in which case, maybe we need to be more
> prominently pointing to them)?

In best slapstick fashion, I found the pages you mentioned in 1) and 3)
after sending off my email. Maybe they did not exist back when I last
looked, maybe they are easier to find now, maybe I was too stupid to
look, back then.
In any case, those two fit my needs nicely. In fact, I would have said
as much on this list if I had not become stuck in reading said docs :)

As to the resource you mention in 2), it is nice, but it does not fit
exactly to what I had in mind. You have a lot of snippets and single
steps, which is fine. What I was imagining was more like a use case
& workflow-driven layout.
A basic or complex task could give a short overview of steps, all of
which would be hyperlinked to detailed explanations. As a lot (more)
documentation seems to exist since I last gave git a serious try,
this is probably mainly a work of coming up with workflows and
linking to the correct places, not so much of writing any actual new
text.


And yes, I think the fact that these newbie-friendly docs exist these
days should be pushed more agressively. As you can see from the
links in my initial mail, a _lot_ of people have the same
misinformation I used to have. That will mainly be due to old
knowledge, but the situation exists. Worse, those people will warn
others about the lack of starter-level docs, making more people
shun git for all the wrong reasons.

An easy step in this direction might be to _prominently_ display
direct links to the newbie docs on the entry points, for most users.
I.e. the main site [1] and the wiki [2] along with the FAQ. I would
edit the wiki myself, but I could not find
MoinMaster:MoinPagesEditorGroup nor MoinMaster anywhere
in said wiki, thus decided to heed the warning & not edit at all.


Richard

[1] http://git.or.cz/
[2] http://git.or.cz/gitwiki

  reply	other threads:[~2008-10-16 11:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-16 10:19 Feedback outside of the user survey Richard Hartmann
2008-10-16 10:28 ` Jeff King
2008-10-16 11:08   ` Richard Hartmann [this message]
2008-10-16 11:56 ` Garry Dolley
2008-10-16 13:18   ` Richard Hartmann
2008-10-16 20:32     ` Christian Jaeger
2008-10-18 13:49       ` Garry Dolley
2008-10-18 14:01         ` Christian Jaeger
2008-10-20  9:57           ` Andreas Ericsson
2008-10-20 14:43             ` Christian Jaeger
2008-10-20 15:02               ` Andreas Ericsson
2008-10-20 15:20                 ` Christian Jaeger
2008-10-20 16:11                   ` Andreas Ericsson
2008-10-20 16:57                     ` Christian Jaeger
2008-10-20 17:30                       ` Christian Jaeger
2008-10-20 22:41                       ` Junio C Hamano
2008-10-21  7:24                         ` Christian Jaeger

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