From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.3 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,NICE_REPLY_A,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS,USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 685CCC12002 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 2021 19:06:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 427BB613F8 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 2021 19:06:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S230018AbhGPTI6 (ORCPT ); Fri, 16 Jul 2021 15:08:58 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:48740 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229534AbhGPTI5 (ORCPT ); Fri, 16 Jul 2021 15:08:57 -0400 Received: from mail-qv1-xf34.google.com (mail-qv1-xf34.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::f34]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A0F4EC06175F for ; Fri, 16 Jul 2021 12:06:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-qv1-xf34.google.com with SMTP id w2so5065946qvh.13 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 2021 12:06:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=5ehDGWtkqgI5cIEy6xxMNiw5HarncBsti9O8PZhYizg=; b=C2XBGAmwfGIE90Y8IebtOw94koDkW1RLJzet05fm74rcn19oVYpd4an7tUFZS03Wbj AUQ/aKcDY9UGv6FedFL0xxpV0PDeEkZIjS9RGAYk0ZZgeq0YPSXmDbBNG1aIhIDvqFu3 wIHullp0XrEH/cfxfq/dq+a596/x0AZepjZrLMIN7H0d/TTsiir1lFTtD1PkfufGGnGZ SdEtMAHyAt5Ls9Edm+w+st1vz0HMWj2rGAqybUVBy/Ll8AU91bJ/ogU4GHj42Jy2ybJW DP6vAAZy9S08nuE7wGpwLsV8F2ekQejz3GA+UwtWTPjyJC/YnNpQ9HaAv85jyEcZU9k+ 96bA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=5ehDGWtkqgI5cIEy6xxMNiw5HarncBsti9O8PZhYizg=; b=KdQjdbMc9unKIsXKryX3KKU8BkSjBaQ6Y/pM2/FdUjoC8k4xkN7gOgGu5WU9xm1vqh Xi1QOtgMYOL9rOgUMbeWcbYGcak4v6P6ZHQ8RNgCOPXXmnmK/+g1/x55rTWRbtZvqQb6 PCkKfNP4aN763tot0/5qLsqsUhLs56zGN76n/otPnxSgaPspxhIeVOZeZ5ar09YR9/Kb jFAN2naFSFSYnTgUG2GuMZoGHyHrJHo+r0UvnCjdlQuDBVr0+smPLak5PbJW9O1FmrKc rlhiTKbR2hD56T8RkvII/uFicF77+n1+duYTRB72exU461Tes2qY2XhiTdtVGrUmIvTM edwA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530+6w3jKnQO5yLelTT5tyqxWMogfAvf8uExV9TMzAThGQnDidM5 bnApE48TQRuOmCuVFy1QMD0ORWt6W8l3Mg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxlKjtRINANMgPW4oRC7BBk1zJIBzk0sqj66DPYNN55jDsdYqy6K37I3wowmpeQALu+I5ty9A== X-Received: by 2002:a0c:e849:: with SMTP id l9mr8160819qvo.41.1626462360443; Fri, 16 Jul 2021 12:06:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPv6:2600:1700:e72:80a0:65b0:b974:e7b0:818c? ([2600:1700:e72:80a0:65b0:b974:e7b0:818c]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u11sm4313086qkk.72.2021.07.16.12.05.59 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 16 Jul 2021 12:05:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] CodingGuidelines: recommend gender-neutral description To: Junio C Hamano , git@vger.kernel.org References: <2c7f188a-6ebe-b116-8299-86ca3732d79a@gmail.com> <87czrl0wob.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com> From: Derrick Stolee Message-ID: <2f39c467-1d95-8f74-5e4b-6889c4352f9b@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2021 15:05:58 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.12.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org On 7/16/2021 2:41 PM, Junio C Hamano wrote: > The only change relative to the previous one is that this > explicitly calls out that some are taught that 'they' is only used > for third-person plural. As we already say that some foreigners > find it ungrammatical and unnatural to use 'they', I actually do > not think it is necessary, but I'd prefer not to leave easy loose > end hanging untied, so let's close this round and let others polish > on top if they wanted to after the dust settls. ... > + Note that this sounds ungrammatical and unnatural to those who > + learned that "they" is only used for third-person plural, e.g. > + those who learn English as a second language in some parts of the > + world. Perfect. Thank you. -Stolee