From: "Avery Pennarun" <apenwarr@gmail.com>
To: "Nicolas Pitre" <nico@cam.org>
Cc: "Johan Herland" <johan@herland.net>,
git@vger.kernel.org, "Stephan Beyer" <s-beyer@gmx.net>,
"Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>,
"Pieter de Bie" <pdebie@ai.rug.nl>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Detached-HEAD reminder on commit?
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 00:50:18 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <32541b130809032150i418014bdo8a838f529e109f50@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0809021849390.23787@xanadu.home>
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 6:53 PM, Nicolas Pitre <nico@cam.org> wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Sep 2008, Johan Herland wrote:
>> Vienna:git pieter$ ./git commit --allow-empty -m"test"
>> You are on a detached head, so this commit would not be recorded in a
>> branch. If you don't want to lose this commit, please switch to a (new)
>> branch before committing. If you know what you're doing, and want to
>> proceed on a detached HEAD, please enable commit.detached in your
>> configuration (git config --global commit.detached true)
>>
>> ...but I sympathize with those that think this is overkill.
>
> This is going over board indeed.
>
> Adding commits to a detached head is _cool_, and it is also _useful_ in
> many occasions. Let's not obfuscate that capability.
>
> Adding an extra line of warning when the commit is done is fine, but
> more than that is too much IMHO.
I think maybe we're looking at this the wrong way. The bad thing
isn't committing to a detached HEAD; the bad thing is detaching the
HEAD *by accident* in the first place.
Why do people (including me) spend so much time with a detached HEAD?
I think it happens mainly for the following reasons:
1) Checking out a remote branch "git checkout origin/master" detaches
my HEAD, which is kind of bad, since it's such a common thing to want
to do. And "git checkout -b master origin/master" is *not* actually
what I want to do, *most* of the time. What I actually want is for git
to remember that I'm on origin/master, but not let me change
origin/master, because it's a remote branch. If I want to make
changes, I need to first make a topic branch, with "git checkout -b
topic". git should prevent me from committing until I do.
2) git-rebase and git-am detach the HEAD while they work. I think
this is fine, but: you shouldn't be able to *reattach* the HEAD
without first aborting the rebase or am operations. When I've lost my
work, it's usually because I turned out to be in the middle of a
rebase or am and forgot about it, then I checked out another branch
and did some work, then ran git-rebase --abort, and oops! It moved me
somewhere else. git should prevent me from switching branches when a
rebase or am is in progress.
3) git-submodule detaches and moves the HEAD of submodules
automatically. This is a whole separate discussion :)
The remaining situations where someone is working on a detached HEAD
(eg. checking out a particular commit, or actually implementing
git-rebase like operations) seem to be pretty obviously *intentional*,
and in that case, git should stay out of their way and let them do
what they're doing.
I believe the reason this is such a hotly debated topic is that people
confuse situations #1 and #2, and try to apply the same solution to
both. But in situation #1, you want to be able to switch branches; in
situation #2, you want to be able to commit. They are different
situations, even though technically the fact that "I'm on a detached
HEAD!" is the same.
Have fun,
Avery
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-09-04 4:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-09-02 19:31 [RFC] Detached-HEAD reminder on commit? Pieter de Bie
2008-09-02 19:43 ` Robin Rosenberg
2008-09-02 20:24 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-09-02 20:26 ` Matthieu Moy
2008-09-02 20:35 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-09-02 20:39 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-09-02 21:05 ` Stephan Beyer
2008-09-02 21:39 ` Johan Herland
2008-09-02 21:44 ` Jeff King
2008-09-02 21:51 ` Jeff King
2008-09-03 7:45 ` Johan Herland
2008-09-03 8:07 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-09-03 9:47 ` Johan Herland
2008-09-03 13:15 ` Jeff King
2008-09-03 13:34 ` Jeff King
2008-09-03 13:46 ` Andreas Ericsson
2008-09-03 16:49 ` Daniel Barkalow
2008-09-03 18:07 ` Jeff King
2008-09-03 19:36 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-09-03 19:41 ` Jeff King
2008-09-03 14:11 ` Wincent Colaiuta
2008-09-03 18:08 ` Jeff King
2008-09-03 15:16 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-09-02 21:58 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-09-02 22:53 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-09-04 4:50 ` Avery Pennarun [this message]
2008-09-04 5:31 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-09-05 23:43 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-09-02 21:51 ` Pieter de Bie
2008-09-02 22:11 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-09-02 22:50 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-09-02 22:58 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-09-03 11:27 ` Pieter de Bie
2008-09-05 17:13 ` [PATCH] Builtin-commit: show on which branch a commit was added Pieter de Bie
2008-09-07 5:27 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-09-07 5:59 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-09-07 23:05 ` [PATCH 1/2] pretty.c: add %% format specifier Pieter de Bie
2008-09-07 23:05 ` [PATCH 2/2] builtin-commit: show on which branch a commit was added Pieter de Bie
2008-09-21 10:42 ` [PATCH] Builtin-commit: " Jeff King
2008-09-29 20:09 ` Pieter de Bie
2008-09-29 22:44 ` Jeff King
2008-09-30 6:13 ` Andreas Ericsson
2008-09-30 6:16 ` Jeff King
2008-09-30 9:45 ` Andreas Ericsson
2008-09-30 9:52 ` [PATCH] git commit: Reformat output somewhat Andreas Ericsson
2008-09-30 6:37 ` [PATCH] Builtin-commit: show on which branch a commit was added Wincent Colaiuta
2008-09-30 7:09 ` Jeff King
2008-09-30 9:59 ` Andreas Ericsson
2008-10-01 3:14 ` Jeff King
2008-10-01 8:13 ` Andreas Ericsson
2008-10-01 15:10 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-10-01 15:22 ` Andreas Ericsson
2008-10-01 15:25 ` Jeff King
2008-10-01 15:36 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-10-01 15:42 ` Jeff King
2008-10-01 15:44 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-10-01 21:06 ` [PATCH] git commit: Repaint the output format bikeshed (again) Andreas Ericsson
2008-10-01 22:06 ` Jeff King
2008-10-01 22:31 ` Jeff King
2008-10-02 5:40 ` Andreas Ericsson
2008-10-02 21:13 ` Jeff King
2008-10-03 0:15 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-10-03 4:24 ` Jeff King
2008-10-03 14:09 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-10-04 2:13 ` Jeff King
2008-10-02 8:36 ` Wincent Colaiuta
2008-10-01 15:18 ` [PATCH] Builtin-commit: show on which branch a commit was added Jeff King
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