From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Avery Pennarun" Subject: Re: [msysGit] [FYI][PATCH] Customizing the WinGit installer Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 22:40:53 -0400 Message-ID: <32541b130810061940y4864c420h1a6504b843d4e746@mail.gmail.com> References: <20081003122727.GE10360@machine.or.cz> <20081006141840.GO10360@machine.or.cz> <20081006201125.GI16289@zakalwe.fi> <20081007015942.GV21650@dpotapov.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "Heikki Orsila" , "Johannes Schindelin" , "Linus Torvalds" , "Jakub Narebski" , "Petr Baudis" , msysgit@googlegroups.com, git@vger.kernel.org To: "Dmitry Potapov" X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Tue Oct 07 04:44:10 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.176.167]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Kn2YS-00088G-Nc for gcvg-git-2@gmane.org; Tue, 07 Oct 2008 04:44:09 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754288AbYJGCk4 (ORCPT ); Mon, 6 Oct 2008 22:40:56 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753629AbYJGCk4 (ORCPT ); Mon, 6 Oct 2008 22:40:56 -0400 Received: from mail-gx0-f16.google.com ([209.85.217.16]:48942 "EHLO mail-gx0-f16.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753428AbYJGCkz (ORCPT ); Mon, 6 Oct 2008 22:40:55 -0400 Received: by gxk9 with SMTP id 9so6043959gxk.13 for ; Mon, 06 Oct 2008 19:40:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=1Njj2n0GbxfzX4waBa3PFZXBbnl23gy4f21sBGFieWY=; b=el1NB/o6RILXPjlosl8J/S+zfzeTz/q4xpbaSFRJQFu/KudKMCjk1Qh8dppXg6OQOz nVg/WGWdRsnBcRKS5ftk0IbbJ7GTz8bkvpDAm/j1KZAZx4Wt+aFyavqvU1rTSJ2HsfXZ jf5hv1diYKtWVe3MWGjp4IsfzdgL7xLZABnec= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=H+KORCruedvVFrmp81/DeGavNHkmrwT0HMAcppKXEgs2DEGsYO+5AXpR0YmNNmB6Zw bdjBhNOoT9V0rTPLByPzWOqLl6u/mD7/SYEu0JHb38EnRlBZPJFKnxAcIxF/6x/cJHnx M7dVdqM3s9bR6xUHBVNiKTEj0MO+9h4XFBjqc= Received: by 10.150.219.18 with SMTP id r18mr8847297ybg.102.1223347253833; Mon, 06 Oct 2008 19:40:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.98.19 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 19:40:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20081007015942.GV21650@dpotapov.dyndns.org> Content-Disposition: inline Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 9:59 PM, Dmitry Potapov wrote: > On Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at 11:11:25PM +0300, Heikki Orsila wrote: >> >> I disagree VIOLENTLY with you. I've been utterly struck with this >> Windows crap here.. I spent a day installing stupid trivial software >> and answering pointless EULAs. I REALLY REALLY hate extra questions.. > > Git installer should NOT ask you whether you agree with the license, > but it merely shows you the license. (At least, it is what was decided > half a year ago). FWIW, the only reason *installers* ever show licenses is because they want to give you *additional* restrictions on top of normal copyright, and making you "click through" the license before using the application might (or might not) make those restrictions more legally enforceable than simply including that license along with the program. Installers don't show you the license to increase visibility; they do it for legal reasons. The most visible place to put a license is in either a splash screen or a Help|About dialog. If I'm using a program and I want to know the license, that's where I look. This whole discussion is silly because end users, who are the ones we claim to be worried about, will not be the ones running the installer anyway at a large company. It'll be the IT department guy, who already knows the license and will have to run the installer 500 times. And if it's not a large company, individuals will see the license when they go to download the software. Have fun, Avery