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From: Avery Pennarun <apenwarr@gmail.com>
To: Ilari Liusvaara <ilari.liusvaara@elisanet.fi>
Cc: Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy <pclouds@gmail.com>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/2] Git-over-TLS (gits://) client side support
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 14:11:14 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <32541b131001131111u6bb0de01qe6cc1ecde5119084@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100113135753.GA7095@Knoppix>

On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Ilari Liusvaara
<ilari.liusvaara@elisanet.fi> wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 08:39:12PM +0700, Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy wrote:
>>
>> Can we rely on an external program, like stunnel, to do the job instead?
>
> No. The way authentication is done is very unusual. I don't think stunnel (or
> anything else) can deal with such modes. And the reason authentications are
> done like they are done in order to minimize points of failure (getting
> really annoyed at failure modes sshd introduced was one big reason for
> writing this).
>
> I _definitely_ do not want to mess with X.509. And its not just about me
> messing with it, it is also about pushing it to users.
>
> And one would need custom daemon anyway even if one used stunnel.
> git-daemon just can't deal with authentication data.

It sounds to me like you're doing two different things with this patch series:

1) Adding additional authorization features (assuming the user is
already authenticated) to git-daemon

2) Creating a TLS encryption layer with authentication support.

#1 sounds like it could be its own patch series even if you don't have
#2, and could be reviewed separately.

#2 sounds like it is not even git-specific.  You've decided that ssh
and stunnel don't fit your needs; what makes your solution not a
general TLS-based authentication layer, like stunnel but with
different certificate management?  If it's really a general layer,
maybe it should be distributed separately and git could be taught how
to use it *or* stunnel (or ssh, as it does now) for its transport
encryption/authentication.

Have fun,

Avery

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-01-13 19:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-01-13 13:19 [RFC 0/2] Git-over-TLS (gits://) client side support Ilari Liusvaara
2010-01-13 13:19 ` [RFC 1/2] Git-over-TLS (gits://) client side support (part 1 of 2) Ilari Liusvaara
2010-01-13 13:19 ` [RFC 2/2] Git-over-TLS (gits://) client side support (part 2 " Ilari Liusvaara
2010-01-13 13:25   ` Alex Riesen
2010-01-13 13:39 ` [RFC 0/2] Git-over-TLS (gits://) client side support Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2010-01-13 13:57   ` Ilari Liusvaara
2010-01-13 14:12     ` Andreas Krey
2010-01-13 14:47       ` Ilari Liusvaara
2010-01-13 16:17         ` Andreas Krey
2010-01-13 17:36           ` Ilari Liusvaara
2010-01-13 18:35             ` Andreas Krey
2010-01-13 19:18               ` Ilari Liusvaara
2010-01-13 19:30                 ` Avery Pennarun
2010-01-13 20:06                   ` Ilari Liusvaara
2010-01-13 20:13                     ` Avery Pennarun
2010-01-13 21:04                       ` Ilari Liusvaara
2010-01-13 22:03                         ` Avery Pennarun
2010-01-13 22:06                           ` Shawn O. Pearce
2010-01-13 23:00                           ` Ilari Liusvaara
2010-01-13 23:51                             ` Avery Pennarun
2010-01-14  8:51                               ` Ilari Liusvaara
2010-01-14 20:46                                 ` Avery Pennarun
2010-01-14 23:08                                   ` Ilari Liusvaara
2010-01-13 19:40                 ` Andreas Krey
2010-01-13 20:47                   ` Ilari Liusvaara
2010-01-13 19:11     ` Avery Pennarun [this message]
2010-01-13 20:00       ` Ilari Liusvaara
2010-01-13 20:13 ` Edward Z. Yang

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