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From: Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>
To: Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Cc: gitster@pobox.com, johannes.schindelin@gmx.de, peff@peff.net,
	ps@pks.im, me@ttaylorr.com, johncai86@gmail.com,
	newren@gmail.com, jonathantanmy@google.com,
	karthik nayak <karthik.188@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/8] pack-objects: Create an alternative name hash algorithm (recreated)
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2025 15:21:15 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <35026c72-f9b4-40a3-b528-1c28b1238972@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <pull.1823.v3.git.1734715194.gitgitgadget@gmail.com>

On 12/20/24 12:19 PM, Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget wrote:
> This is a recreation of the topic in [1] that was closed. (I force-pushed my
> branch and GitHub won't let me reopen the PR for GitGitGadget to create this
> as v3.)
> 
> [1]
> https://lore.kernel.org/git/pull.1785.v2.git.1726692381.gitgitgadget@gmail.com/
> 
> I've been focused recently on understanding and mitigating the growth of a
> few internal repositories. Some of these are growing much larger than
> expected for the number of contributors, and there are multiple aspects to
> why this growth is so large.

> The main issue plaguing these repositories is that deltas are not being
> computed against objects that appear at the same path. While the size of
> these files at tip is one aspect of growth that would prevent this issue,
> the changes to these files are reasonable and should result in good delta
> compression. However, Git is not discovering the connections across
> different versions of the same file.

> This series creates a mechanism to select alternative name hashes using a
> new --name-hash-version=<n> option. The versions are:
> 
>   1. Version 1 is the default name hash that already exists. This option
>      focuses on the final bytes of the path to maximize locality for
>      cross-path deltas.
> 
>   2. Version 2 is the new path-component hash function suggested by Jonathan
>      Tan in the previous version (with some modifications). This hash
>      function essentially computes the v1 name hash of each path component
>      and then overlays those hashes with a shift to make the parent
>      directories contribute less to the final hash, but enough to break many
>      collisions that exist in v1.
> 
>   3. Version 3 is the hash function that I submitted under the
>      --full-name-hash feature in the previous versions. This uses a
>      pseudorandom hash procedure to minimize collisions but at the expense of
>      losing on locality. This version is implemented in the final patch of
>      the series mostly for comparison purposes, as it is unlikely to be
>      selected as a valuable hash function over v2. The final patch could be
>      omitted from the merged version.
This series has been at this version for a while. I'm pretty sure that this
is the most promising direction we have at the moment for improving delta
compression for many users.

The only decision point I think remains is whether or not to include the last
patch (--name-hash-version=3) which I would be happy either way.

Thanks,
-Stolee

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-01-21 20:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-05  3:05 [PATCH 0/7] pack-objects: Create an alternative name hash algorithm (recreated) Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2024-11-05  3:05 ` [PATCH 1/7] pack-objects: add --full-name-hash option Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2024-11-21 20:08   ` Taylor Blau
2024-11-21 21:35     ` Taylor Blau
2024-11-21 23:32       ` Junio C Hamano
2024-11-22 11:46       ` Derrick Stolee
2024-11-22 11:59     ` Derrick Stolee
2024-11-26  8:26   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-11-05  3:05 ` [PATCH 2/7] repack: " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2024-11-21 20:12   ` Taylor Blau
2024-11-22 12:07     ` Derrick Stolee
2024-11-05  3:05 ` [PATCH 3/7] pack-objects: add GIT_TEST_FULL_NAME_HASH Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2024-11-21 20:15   ` Taylor Blau
2024-11-22 12:09     ` Derrick Stolee
2024-11-22  1:13   ` Jonathan Tan
2024-11-22  3:23     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-11-22 18:01       ` Jonathan Tan
2024-11-25  0:39         ` Junio C Hamano
2024-11-25 19:45           ` Jonathan Tan
2024-11-26  1:29             ` Junio C Hamano
2024-11-26  8:26   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-11-05  3:05 ` [PATCH 4/7] git-repack: update usage to match docs Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2024-11-21 20:17   ` Taylor Blau
2024-11-22 15:26     ` Derrick Stolee
2024-11-05  3:05 ` [PATCH 5/7] p5313: add size comparison test Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2024-11-21 20:31   ` Taylor Blau
2024-11-22 15:26     ` Derrick Stolee
2024-11-26  8:26   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-11-05  3:05 ` [PATCH 6/7] pack-objects: disable --full-name-hash when shallow Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2024-11-21 20:33   ` Taylor Blau
2024-11-22 15:27     ` Derrick Stolee
2024-11-05  3:05 ` [PATCH 7/7] test-tool: add helper for name-hash values Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2024-11-21 20:42   ` Taylor Blau
2024-11-22  1:23   ` Jonathan Tan
2024-11-21 23:50 ` [PATCH 0/7] pack-objects: Create an alternative name hash algorithm (recreated) Jonathan Tan
2024-11-22  3:01   ` Junio C Hamano
2024-11-22  4:22     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-11-22 15:27     ` Derrick Stolee
2024-11-24 23:57       ` Junio C Hamano
2024-11-22 18:05     ` Jonathan Tan
2024-12-02 23:21 ` [PATCH v2 0/8] " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2024-12-02 23:21   ` [PATCH v2 1/8] pack-objects: create new name-hash function version Jonathan Tan via GitGitGadget
2024-12-04 20:06     ` karthik nayak
2024-12-04 21:05       ` Junio C Hamano
2024-12-05  9:46         ` karthik nayak
2024-12-09 23:15     ` Jonathan Tan
2024-12-10  0:01       ` Junio C Hamano
2024-12-02 23:21   ` [PATCH v2 2/8] pack-objects: add --name-hash-version option Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2024-12-04 20:53     ` karthik nayak
2024-12-02 23:21   ` [PATCH v2 3/8] repack: " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2024-12-04 21:15     ` karthik nayak
2024-12-02 23:21   ` [PATCH v2 4/8] pack-objects: add GIT_TEST_NAME_HASH_VERSION Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2024-12-04 21:21     ` karthik nayak
2024-12-09 23:12     ` Jonathan Tan
2024-12-20 17:03       ` Derrick Stolee
2024-12-02 23:21   ` [PATCH v2 5/8] p5313: add size comparison test Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2024-12-02 23:21   ` [PATCH v2 6/8] test-tool: add helper for name-hash values Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2024-12-02 23:21   ` [PATCH v2 7/8] pack-objects: prevent name hash version change Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2024-12-02 23:21   ` [PATCH v2 8/8] pack-objects: add third name hash version Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2024-12-03  3:23   ` [PATCH v2 0/8] pack-objects: Create an alternative name hash algorithm (recreated) Junio C Hamano
2024-12-04  4:56     ` Derrick Stolee
2024-12-04  5:02       ` Junio C Hamano
2024-12-20 17:19   ` [PATCH v3 " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2024-12-20 17:19     ` [PATCH v3 1/8] pack-objects: create new name-hash function version Jonathan Tan via GitGitGadget
2025-01-22 22:08       ` Taylor Blau
2024-12-20 17:19     ` [PATCH v3 2/8] pack-objects: add --name-hash-version option Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-01-22 22:17       ` Taylor Blau
2025-01-24 17:29         ` Derrick Stolee
2024-12-20 17:19     ` [PATCH v3 3/8] repack: " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-01-22 22:18       ` Taylor Blau
2024-12-20 17:19     ` [PATCH v3 4/8] pack-objects: add GIT_TEST_NAME_HASH_VERSION Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-01-22 22:20       ` Taylor Blau
2024-12-20 17:19     ` [PATCH v3 5/8] p5313: add size comparison test Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2024-12-20 17:19     ` [PATCH v3 6/8] test-tool: add helper for name-hash values Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2024-12-20 17:19     ` [PATCH v3 7/8] pack-objects: prevent name hash version change Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-01-22 22:22       ` Taylor Blau
2024-12-20 17:19     ` [PATCH v3 8/8] pack-objects: add third name hash version Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-01-22 22:37       ` Taylor Blau
2025-01-24 17:34         ` Derrick Stolee
2025-01-21 20:21     ` Derrick Stolee [this message]
2025-01-22 23:28       ` [PATCH v3 0/8] pack-objects: Create an alternative name hash algorithm (recreated) Taylor Blau
2025-01-24 17:45         ` Derrick Stolee
2025-01-27 19:02     ` [PATCH v4 0/7] " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-01-27 19:02       ` [PATCH v4 1/7] pack-objects: create new name-hash function version Jonathan Tan via GitGitGadget
2025-01-27 19:02       ` [PATCH v4 2/7] pack-objects: add --name-hash-version option Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-01-27 21:18         ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-29 13:38           ` Derrick Stolee
2025-01-27 19:02       ` [PATCH v4 3/7] repack: " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-01-27 19:02       ` [PATCH v4 4/7] pack-objects: add GIT_TEST_NAME_HASH_VERSION Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-01-27 19:02       ` [PATCH v4 5/7] p5313: add size comparison test Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-01-27 19:02       ` [PATCH v4 6/7] test-tool: add helper for name-hash values Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-01-27 19:02       ` [PATCH v4 7/7] pack-objects: prevent name hash version change Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-01-31 21:39       ` [PATCH v4 0/7] pack-objects: Create an alternative name hash algorithm (recreated) Taylor Blau

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