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Fri, 23 Oct 2026 00:51:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Owner: Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2026 06:51:35 +0200 From: "Kristoffer Haugsbakk" To: "brian m. carlson" Cc: "Emily Shaffer" , git@vger.kernel.org Message-Id: <37eb49ab-86dc-4d62-87bd-7e400ea13e30@app.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20261021200341.378978-1-emilyshaffer@google.com> <3fe1dc57-5bb2-4e12-8876-a4969e5201cb@app.fastmail.com> Subject: Re: [PATCH] Documentation: propose community voting process Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Oct 23, 2026, at 00:51, brian m. carlson wrote: > On 2026-10-22 at 07:29:26, Kristoffer Haugsbakk wrote: >> On Wed, Oct 21, 2026, at 22:03, Emily Shaffer wrote: >> > As we discussed in the Contributor Summit this past September[1], t= here's >> > interest in taking a formal community vote to decide whether and ho= w to accept >> > AI contributions. The topic is of course a very contentious one, an= d I don't >> > think that we're going to come to general consensus the way we have= on most >> > other concerns in the past. >>=20 >> The vote will pass. Those who work on Git at least once a month work = for >> tech companies. Those tech companies are now AI companies. The votes >> will happen to drift towards agreement with their management. > > I do usually work on Git at least once a month and I do work for a tech > company, although I sent my first patch while I was in university. > Despite what some people might believe, I don't parrot my employer's > company line from my personal account. Even when I'm speaking for my > employer, I don't speak in ways that I don't personally believe in > because I'm a person of integrity. To the contrary, I think most peop= le > who know me know that I'm a person who calls it as they see it. > > I think anyone who was at the Contributor Summit or has read my emails > to the list knows how I feel about LLMs and how I vote as a contributor > will not be influenced by my employer. I do think, though, that this = is > a reason that votes should be secret because that prevents people from > having to prove their votes to others. I was not being precise. That was about being *paid* to work *on Git* and with some regularity. And it would only *drift towards* agreement with managemt in the aggregate. A further clarification. This would not hold if the group of people who work on X is small. I don't know who or what =E2=80=9CDespite what some=20 people might believe=E2=80=9D is about and I don't care. Sent from mobile