From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Joshua Juran Subject: Re: Gitbox Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 15:23:49 -0700 Message-ID: <4238CC86-13A5-4DB8-B8B2-BC3AA2F2DA5E@gmail.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "Randal L. Schwartz" , Drew Northup , oleganza@gmail.com, Junio C Hamano , Chris Perkins , git@vger.kernel.org, Daniel Searles To: Daniel Searles X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Thu Apr 14 00:24:01 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@lo.gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.180.67]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QA8Tg-0002Lw-3z for gcvg-git-2@lo.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 00:24:00 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S933299Ab1DMWXy (ORCPT ); Wed, 13 Apr 2011 18:23:54 -0400 Received: from mail-yw0-f46.google.com ([209.85.213.46]:51067 "EHLO mail-yw0-f46.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S933296Ab1DMWXx (ORCPT ); Wed, 13 Apr 2011 18:23:53 -0400 Received: by ywj3 with SMTP id 3so443820ywj.19 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2011 15:23:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; bh=Ba7gANzZMgm3DN3CL5CCJad22ssfb/kvWAD73N484Ec=; b=v4xFdZqA8LSSNZUWA+ZhuUW1Xf8LwNCxoVH7VRwp022sTHt2k2lsDPZ3GGtbAJFoyZ 1sTE5S7/RvyvQhjom7yIYyUfZyKVgok1yTtUYAw29xpAQUTKa387NlSD25CmHHX9u8iZ in8izFUyQAfoHMX/FvKoIeLM1AUkPS1FL5OFE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=dhm2Ltm9wOxpgILK0qc+QfTkUIID6/kMODM8sm1Mjl21n/hApKuoBwRqJ8ZgoT038n 1LStlxNz/ItRJuTkqCWv2VzeJosQ/FjEIE/0Fp1gCvpC/gWQZBfoaExG6FxBP3OLZfas dpxfIQqyUk7IK2FnXriwX2u0K7d/otOQPV8Y8= Received: by 10.42.73.9 with SMTP id q9mr44407icj.44.1302733432968; Wed, 13 Apr 2011 15:23:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zaphod.jjuran.dyndns.org (c-71-227-175-60.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [71.227.175.60]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o3sm709023ibd.27.2011.04.13.15.23.50 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 13 Apr 2011 15:23:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: On Apr 13, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Searles wrote: > I apologize for the empty email. My SMTP server is having problems. > That is why I'm going to use this email address to write to the list. Gah, stop doing that! :-) > I feel that gitbox and perhaps other commercial tools for git are in > violation of the GPL simply since they rely on git in order to be > useful. Take git away from gitbox and it serves no purpose. The > thread in the following link goes into depth with regards to a > program relying on code that is under a GPL license. The conclusion > made in the thread may be due to an older version of the GPL. Could > it be that gitbox isn't in violation of the GPL since git uses GPL > version 2.0 exclusively? > > http://clisp.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/clisp/clisp/doc/Why-CLISP-is-under-GPL My shell scripts that call git are also useless without Git. Am I not allowed to distribute my scripts under non-GPL terms? (And what about a script that calls the nonexistent blort utility, and then someone writes blort and distributes it under the GPL?) As I understand it, the GPL (and the thread you mention) address linking, not utility. RMS seemed to win this debate by arguing that his position was better for the community. I have colleagues who understand that Git is the best VCS available but are concerned about having to train users who are used to IDEs. I've used a couple open source Git viewers and would hesitate to recommend them. The option to use GitBox makes adoption of Git more likely in this case. CVS is a GNU project. Did FSF go after proprietary cvs wrappers? Josh