From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "H. Peter Anvin" Subject: Re: Date handling. Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:01:55 -0700 Message-ID: <425EDA43.3040404@zytor.com> References: <1113512078.12012.227.camel@baythorne.infradead.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "Luck, Tony" , Linus Torvalds , git@vger.kernel.org X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Thu Apr 14 23:01:28 2005 Return-path: Received: from vger.kernel.org ([12.107.209.244]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DMBQe-0005Le-Ni for gcvg-git@gmane.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 22:59:12 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261594AbVDNVCa (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:02:30 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261590AbVDNVCa (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:02:30 -0400 Received: from terminus.zytor.com ([209.128.68.124]:52628 "EHLO terminus.zytor.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261595AbVDNVCS (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:02:18 -0400 Received: from [10.4.1.13] (yardgnome.orionmulti.com [209.128.68.65]) (authenticated bits=0) by terminus.zytor.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j3EL20CH012745 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:02:00 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2-1.3.2 (X11/20050324) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en To: David Woodhouse In-Reply-To: <1113512078.12012.227.camel@baythorne.infradead.org> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on terminus.zytor.com Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org David Woodhouse wrote: > On Thu, 2005-04-14 at 12:42 -0700, Luck, Tony wrote: > >>This is a very good point ... but this still has problems with the >>"git is a filesystem, not a SCM" mantra. Timezone comments don't >>belong in the git inode. > > Yeah, but really I'd want to see other serious users of it before I'd > accept that the timezone information _really_ needs to be stored > separately. After all, the committer and author information really > wouldn't be considered part of the _filesystem_ either. > Both of these are metadata; they may not be directly relevant to the filesystem, but are attributes relevant to the client thereof; effectively an xattr. It's not really any different than the fact that RFC 2822-style messages frequently contain headers rarely used by either MTAs or MUAs; they're metadata provided along the standard format for metadata in that system. In fact, the ability for RFC (2)822 to accommodate this type of data has shown to be a major strength of the system, as opposed to the uncountably many attempts at binary email formats. -hpa