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From: Bryan Larsen <bryanlarsen@yahoo.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: Junio C Hamano <junkio@cox.net>,
	bryan.larsen@gmail.com, pasky@suse.cz, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/6] git-gnu-progs-Makefile: git Makefile update
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 15:42:26 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <42D2CBA2.8060705@yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0507111206240.17536@g5.osdl.org>

Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 11 Jul 2005, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> 
>>I am not yet convinced "one variable per GNU program" is the
>>right way to do (I do agree it is a problem and I appreciate
>>your trying to solving it; an obvious alternative cop-out would
>>be to fix this in the user's environment, but there might be a
>>saner solution)
> 
> 
> Yes. As you say, if we do this (and I think it's so ugly that I'm not
> convinced we want to), it should be done in git-sh-setup-script _once_
> instead of editing every single script.

Agreed: I was much happier with my cogito implementation where I just 
put it in cg-Xlib.  Is git-sh-setup-script appropriate?  At first glance 
it had a specific purpose and was not included in a large number of files.

> 
> Most everything includes git-sh-setup-script anyway by now.
> 
> However, what are the features that break the default apple tools anyway? 
> Maybe we should avoid using them? OSX clearly comes with "cp" and "xargs" 
> regardless, what are the flags that don't work with their cruddy versions?

xargs -r, cp -l, cp -u, cp -a.  Git uses the first 2, cogito uses all 4.

Last night, I couldn't think of alternatives to these, but I obviously 
didn't try very hard.  xargs -r can probably happen via a temporary file 
and cp -u can probably be simulated using rsync.

> 
> [ Rant mode on: ..and who the hell is the idiot at Apple who includes the
>   old crappy BSD stuff? They already use gcc, so it's totally pointless to
>   have a NIH thing, when the GNU utilities are just _better_. Maybe 
>   somebody can ask Apple to get with the program and not live in the dark 
>   ages any more. ]
> 

It wasn't long ago that the BSD's and Solaris had the same problems.  If 
only Apple is in the dark ages, shame on them.

Bryan

  reply	other threads:[~2005-07-11 19:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-07-11 10:14 [PATCH 0/6] parameterize gnu tool names; add Portfile for OS X darwinports Bryan Larsen
2005-07-11 10:14 ` [PATCH 1/6] git-gnu-progs: parameterize git Bryan Larsen
2005-07-11 10:14 ` [PATCH 2/6] config-sh: find and verify utils Bryan Larsen
2005-07-11 10:15 ` [PATCH 3/6] git-gnu-progs-Makefile: git Makefile update Bryan Larsen
2005-07-11 19:02   ` Junio C Hamano
2005-07-11 19:10     ` Linus Torvalds
2005-07-11 19:42       ` Bryan Larsen [this message]
2005-07-11 20:00         ` Linus Torvalds
2005-07-12  9:03           ` Matthias Urlichs
2005-07-11 20:14         ` Junio C Hamano
2005-07-11 20:22           ` Bryan Larsen
2005-07-11 20:30           ` Junio C Hamano
2005-07-11 21:28             ` Bryan Larsen
2005-07-11 21:59               ` Junio C Hamano
2005-07-11 19:21     ` Bryan Larsen
2005-07-11 10:15 ` [PATCH 4/6] cogito-gnu-progs: parameterize cogito Bryan Larsen
2005-07-11 10:15 ` [PATCH 5/6] cogito-gnu-progs-Makefile: cogito Makefile update Bryan Larsen
2005-07-11 10:15 ` [PATCH 6/6] darwinports-Portfile: Portfile for cogito Bryan Larsen

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