From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Bryan Larsen Subject: Re: Barebone Porcelain. Where to stop? Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 00:41:21 -0400 Message-ID: <42DB32F1.5020900@gmail.com> References: <7vek9yirdi.fsf@assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: git@vger.kernel.org X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Mon Jul 18 06:41:50 2005 Return-path: Received: from vger.kernel.org ([12.107.209.244]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DuNRb-0006rW-PM for gcvg-git@gmane.org; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 06:41:32 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261371AbVGRElY (ORCPT ); Mon, 18 Jul 2005 00:41:24 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261419AbVGRElY (ORCPT ); Mon, 18 Jul 2005 00:41:24 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.162.193]:11632 "EHLO zproxy.gmail.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261371AbVGRElX (ORCPT ); Mon, 18 Jul 2005 00:41:23 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 14so800631nzn for ; Sun, 17 Jul 2005 21:41:22 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qgIYLVAz0dwW80kGMmSLJXERaEDfsTUGz/zjI7p6/T5m5sJoqfGJAhxlTKBtFX27W+ujiUeK/kKdqUHhEMo3gWiFx/gQoy0dzNGCYM9g2qLqdg1oyko28NdehoaVjcA+KGu1TuQa/lxMCHJ47G+xIveAUo4tMR3hEEY332MfpeA= Received: by 10.36.36.15 with SMTP id j15mr3085043nzj; Sun, 17 Jul 2005 21:41:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.100? ([70.26.43.137]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 20sm5743253nzp.2005.07.17.21.41.22; Sun, 17 Jul 2005 21:41:22 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Macintosh/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en To: Junio C Hamano In-Reply-To: <7vek9yirdi.fsf@assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net> Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Junio C Hamano wrote: > I have been somewhat disturbed and confused by the fact that the > line between what Porcelain like Cogito does and what we ship as > part of "core GIT" is getting more and more blurred. This was > especially so while I was working on the $GIT_DIR/branches/ > patch. I have also been disturbed. But I am gratified that such a core git personage shares my concern. This is enough from a technical point of view, at least for me. Any lack of porcelain momentum is probably due to git having better documentation than the current porcelains, such as cogito and stacked git. The documentation, like tutorial.txt and Jeff Garzik's git kernel howto give the impression that most kernel folks use git instead of cogito. I personally think that the cogito interface and stacked git interfaces are much nicer than git's, and would like to see these two tools achieve some momentum. Another way of encouraging porcelain is by helping Pasky and Catalin out. Myself, I have been sending corresponding patches for Cogito and Stacked when making changes to git. This is purely selfish: I use both of these porcelains, but if it became general practice, we'd probably see less breakage. Bryan