From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Andreas Ericsson Subject: Re: [OT] Shameless troll ;o) Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 23:47:55 +0100 Message-ID: <43BAFF1B.6080607@op5.se> References: <20060103145639.GC20353@thunk.org> <43BAD395.5090801@zytor.com> <20060103222802.GA29610@thunk.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Tue Jan 03 23:48:06 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git@gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.176.167]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Etuwm-0002gR-I3 for gcvg-git@gmane.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 23:48:04 +0100 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S964781AbWACWr5 convert rfc822-to-quoted-printable (ORCPT ); Tue, 3 Jan 2006 17:47:57 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932547AbWACWr5 (ORCPT ); Tue, 3 Jan 2006 17:47:57 -0500 Received: from linux-server1.op5.se ([193.201.96.2]:33753 "EHLO smtp-gw1.op5.se") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932541AbWACWr5 (ORCPT ); Tue, 3 Jan 2006 17:47:57 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.19] (1-2-9-7a.gkp.gbg.bostream.se [82.182.116.44]) by smtp-gw1.op5.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1537A6BD02 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 23:47:56 +0100 (CET) User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7-1.1.fc4 (X11/20050929) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en To: git@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <20060103222802.GA29610@thunk.org> Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: Theodore Ts'o wrote: >=20 > Certainly, journalists are people; but they are supposed to check > their biases at the door when they start writing (except on the > editorials page); that's part of the stated advantages of > "professional journalists" over the undiscplined bloggers which Dan > Lyons so gleefully trashed in most recent cover article. Given that > he makes no effort hide his biases, at least in my book that makes hi= m > a lousy journalist. >=20 Not necessarily. I've got a journalist background myself. When I went t= o=20 school we were taught to say what was true, how we came to know that,=20 what we *think* is true, why we think that and what our opinions are=20 about it, preferrably but not necessarily in that order. Speculations=20 and opinions are what differs a journalist from a reporter. We were also taught that we, as reporters, should be the ones pushing=20 the boundaries and our editors should be holding us back. I think Mr.=20 Lyons editor is not doing a very good job. Some of the articles I=20 stumbled across were not worth the time it took to let google find them= =20 for me. I've never met Mr. Lyons or, until today, read anything he's written.=20 From what little I've gathered though, he seems to be stubborn,=20 narrowminded and rude, but not eloquent enough to pull it off with styl= e. That said, journalists are actually supposed to be biased (how can you=20 have opinions for something you don't think anything about?), but in a=20 stylishly blas=E9 and preferrably entertaining sort of way. --=20 Andreas Ericsson andreas.ericsson@op5.se OP5 AB www.op5.se Tel: +46 8-230225 Fax: +46 8-230231