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From: A Large Angry SCM <gitzilla@gmail.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Junio C Hamano <junkio@cox.net>,
	Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>,
	Simon Richter <Simon.Richter@hogyros.de>
Subject: Re: RFC: Subprojects
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 12:30:33 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43C95F69.7090200@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0601141154590.13339@g5.osdl.org>

Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 14 Jan 2006, A Large Angry SCM wrote:
>>So far I've not seen any convincing arguments why the sub-projects can not be
>>managed by the Makefile, or equivalent, of the super-project. Particularly
>>when the sub-projects have a life of their own.
> 
> Now, from a developer standpoint I actually agree with you. I find 
> sub-projects totally useless - I'm much happier just having separate 
> trees.
> 
> The advantage (as far as I can tell) of sub-projects is not that they are 
> easier to develop in, but that it's a total nightmare for the technical 
> _user_ to download ten different projects from ten different sites, and 
> configure them properly and install them in the right order, and keep them 
> up-to-date.
> 
> There are projects that I simply gave up even trying to track: I wasn't 
> interested in being a developer per se, but I _was_ interested in trying 
> to test and give feedback to the current development tree - but it was 
> just too damn confusing to get it working.
> 
> If I could have just done a "git clone <top-level>" to get it all, I'd 
> have been a much more productive user.

$ make get_sub_components

This can work with most any SCM (depending on your environment), is 
amazingly flexible, and does not require special support in the SCM.

The "get" rule for each sub-project could be something like:

	git_sub-project:
		mkdir sub-project
		cd sub-project
		git-init-db
		git-fetch <fetch-options> <repository> <refspec>
		git-checkout <branch>
		$(MAKE) get_sub_components

> 
> This is why I think sub-projects are more about "git checkout" and an 
> automated "git fetch" than anything else. Doing actual development etc you 
> can easily do one project at a time. "git diff" and "git commit" wouldn't 
> need any real ability to recurse into subprojects and try to make it 
> seamless. And if you do a "git pull" that needs to do anything but 
> fast-forward, you might as well resolve the sub-projects one by one.

And all of this can be done today, without changing git, with more 
flexibility, with Make rules.

  reply	other threads:[~2006-01-14 20:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-01-11 15:58 RFC: Subprojects Simon Richter
2006-01-11 16:44 ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-01-11 16:52   ` Simon Richter
2006-01-11 17:42     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-01-11 19:43       ` Simon Richter
2006-01-11 20:06         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-01-14  8:59       ` Junio C Hamano
2006-01-14 19:16         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-01-14 19:32           ` A Large Angry SCM
2006-01-14 20:02             ` Linus Torvalds
2006-01-14 20:30               ` A Large Angry SCM [this message]
2006-01-14 20:38                 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-01-15  0:28                   ` Martin Langhoff
2006-01-15  0:49                     ` Junio C Hamano
2006-01-15  1:55                       ` Tom Prince
2006-01-16  5:06                     ` Daniel Barkalow
2006-01-16 19:08                       ` A Large Angry SCM
2006-01-16 20:20                         ` Daniel Barkalow
2006-01-16 22:25                           ` A Large Angry SCM
2006-01-16  7:48               ` Alex Riesen
2006-01-14 20:16           ` Junio C Hamano
2006-01-15  1:01             ` Junio C Hamano
2006-01-16 10:44             ` Josef Weidendorfer
2006-01-16 20:49               ` Junio C Hamano
2006-01-17  5:46                 ` Daniel Barkalow
2006-01-17  6:18                   ` Junio C Hamano
2006-01-17 14:09                     ` Petr Baudis
2006-01-17 16:45                       ` Daniel Barkalow
2006-01-17 17:33                         ` Craig Schlenter
2006-01-17 17:38                         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-01-17 17:41                     ` Daniel Barkalow
2006-01-18  1:41                       ` Junio C Hamano
2006-01-18  3:49                         ` Junio C Hamano
2006-01-18 11:47                           ` Alexander Litvinov
2006-01-18 13:29                             ` Andreas Ericsson
2006-01-18 17:06                             ` Junio C Hamano
2006-01-18 18:21                         ` Daniel Barkalow
2006-01-18 18:49                           ` Junio C Hamano
2006-01-18 19:29                             ` Daniel Barkalow
2006-01-23  1:22                           ` Petr Baudis
2006-01-23  0:50                 ` Petr Baudis
2006-01-16  7:28         ` Alexander Litvinov
2006-01-16 10:16           ` Andreas Ericsson
2006-02-20 13:16         ` Uwe Zeisberger
2006-02-21  7:57           ` Junio C Hamano
2006-01-12  3:19 ` Alexander Litvinov
2006-01-12  4:46   ` Martin Langhoff
2006-01-12  5:25     ` Alexander Litvinov
2006-01-12  5:39       ` Martin Langhoff
2006-01-12  8:36         ` Alexander Litvinov
2006-01-12  8:58           ` Alex Riesen
2006-01-12  7:20       ` Anand Kumria
2006-01-12 13:38     ` Daniel Barkalow
2006-01-15 15:07 ` [RFC][PATCH] Cogito support for simple subprojects Petr Baudis
2006-01-15 17:38   ` Linus Torvalds
2006-01-15 19:15   ` Junio C Hamano

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