[RFC] "clone --naked"?

[RFC] "clone --naked"?

[Junio C Hamano]

"Ulrich Windl" <ulrich.windl@rz.uni-regensburg.DE> writes:

> On 14 Jan 2006 at 15:39, Junio C Hamano wrote:
>
> [...]
>> BTW, I have been meaning to make this easier, by introducing a
>> new option to "git clone", like this:
> ...
> You must be over 21 to use --naked, however ;-)
> Maybe you find a better word.

Linus seems to use word "bare" sometimes.  Checking the git-core
documentation, repository-layout documentation first used the
word naked on Sep 1 2005, while there is no mention of "bare"
repository anywhere.  Maybe "bare" is preferred?

I hope you do not mind my sending this message out to git list
to take a quick poll.

Re: [kernel.org users] [RFC] "clone --naked"?

[Arjan van de Ven]

On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 23:47 -0800, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> "Ulrich Windl" <ulrich.windl@rz.uni-regensburg.DE> writes:
> 
> > On 14 Jan 2006 at 15:39, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >> BTW, I have been meaning to make this easier, by introducing a
> >> new option to "git clone", like this:
> > ...
> > You must be over 21 to use --naked, however ;-)
> > Maybe you find a better word.
> 
> Linus seems to use word "bare" sometimes.  Checking the git-core
> documentation, repository-layout documentation first used the
> word naked on Sep 1 2005, while there is no mention of "bare"
> repository anywhere.  Maybe "bare" is preferred?
> 
> I hope you do not mind my sending this message out to git list
> to take a quick poll.

While I don't give a rats bottom about the "21"-ness of naked, "naked"
is more likely to trigger spam traps than "bare" though... just a side
consideration but unfortunately needed nowadays ;(

Re: [kernel.org users] [RFC] "clone --naked"?

[Linus Torvalds]

On Mon, 16 Jan 2006, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> 
> While I don't give a rats bottom about the "21"-ness of naked, "naked"
> is more likely to trigger spam traps than "bare" though... just a side
> consideration but unfortunately needed nowadays ;(

Yeah. I've had spamassassin kill patches to the aic7xxx driver because the 
subject said "aic7xxx", and the "xxx" triggered as being a bad word.

Now, "naked" doesn't seem to trigger anything for spamassassin, but I 
wouldn't be entirely surprised if some web-content blocker were to be 
over-eager at times. So "bare" might be safer.

		Linus

Re: [kernel.org users] [RFC] "clone --naked"?

[Ulrich Windl]

Hi!

Maybe let me clarify: I don't have anything against any of those particular words. 
My original intention was that I thought them to be little descriptive regarding 
their function. You seem to have "--bare" and "--naked". Hard to guess what they 
really do.  The suggestion to select better words was not primarily because of 
underaged using Linux or any SPAM issues. That part was just a joke. Sorry.

Regards,
Ulrich


On 16 Jan 2006 at 11:17, Linus Torvalds wrote:

> 
> 
> On Mon, 16 Jan 2006, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> > 
> > While I don't give a rats bottom about the "21"-ness of naked, "naked"
> > is more likely to trigger spam traps than "bare" though... just a side
> > consideration but unfortunately needed nowadays ;(
> 
> Yeah. I've had spamassassin kill patches to the aic7xxx driver because the 
> subject said "aic7xxx", and the "xxx" triggered as being a bad word.
> 
> Now, "naked" doesn't seem to trigger anything for spamassassin, but I 
> wouldn't be entirely surprised if some web-content blocker were to be 
> over-eager at times. So "bare" might be safer.
> 
> 		Linus
> 
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Re: [kernel.org users] [RFC] "clone --naked"?

[Junio C Hamano]

"Ulrich Windl" <ulrich.windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de> writes:

> ...  My original intention was that I
> thought them to be little descriptive regarding their
> function.  You seem to have "--bare" and "--naked". Hard to
> guess what they really do.

True.  "A repository without an associated working tree".  I do
not know a short and sweet phrase to describe that (well, except
"bare" and "naked", which I kind of already got used to).

Whatever word we choose to describe that, it should go to the
glossary document.

Re: [kernel.org users] [RFC] "clone --naked"?

[Ulrich Windl]

On 17 Jan 2006 at 0:17, Junio C Hamano wrote:

> "Ulrich Windl" <ulrich.windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de> writes:
> 
> > ...  My original intention was that I
> > thought them to be little descriptive regarding their
> > function.  You seem to have "--bare" and "--naked". Hard to
> > guess what they really do.
> 
> True.  "A repository without an associated working tree".  I do

--rmo --repository-metadata-only?
--sdf --sans-data-files?
--rwwt (Repository Without Working Tree)?
--qdr (Quick-and-Dirty Repository)?

...

I think you have your own ideas...

Ulrich


> not know a short and sweet phrase to describe that (well, except
> "bare" and "naked", which I kind of already got used to).
> 
> Whatever word we choose to describe that, it should go to the
> glossary document.
> 

Re: [kernel.org users] [RFC] "clone --naked"?

[Andreas Ericsson]

Ulrich Windl wrote:
> On 17 Jan 2006 at 0:17, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> 
> 
>>"Ulrich Windl" <ulrich.windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de> writes:
>>
>>
>>>...  My original intention was that I
>>>thought them to be little descriptive regarding their
>>>function.  You seem to have "--bare" and "--naked". Hard to
>>>guess what they really do.
>>
>>True.  "A repository without an associated working tree".  I do
> 
> 
> --rmo --repository-metadata-only?
> --sdf --sans-data-files?
> --rwwt (Repository Without Working Tree)?
> --qdr (Quick-and-Dirty Repository)?
> 

I like --bare (Barely A REpository, BAre REpository).


Oh well.

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