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From: John Tapsell <johnflux@gmail.com>
To: Steven Tweed <orthochronous@gmail.com>
Cc: Ealdwulf Wuffinga <ealdwulf@googlemail.com>,
	Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>,
	Christian Couder <chriscool@tuxfamily.org>,
	Git List <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Generalised bisection
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:37:45 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43d8ce650903160337p5a48c429nd9efd7f35e66248d@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d9c1caea0903160329v3c1a1600m9913eafa00cc2f37@mail.gmail.com>

2009/3/16 Steven Tweed <orthochronous@gmail.com>:
> On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 7:16 PM, Ealdwulf Wuffinga
> <ealdwulf@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Steven Tweed <orthochronous@gmail.com> wrote:
>> It is not obvious how to perform this algorithm incrementally, because
>> of the need to
>> marginalise out the fault rate. As I understand it, marginalisation
>> has to be done after you
>> have incorporated all your information into the model, which means we
>> can't use the
>> usual bayesian updating.
>
> I had a look over the weekend, and got a bit sidetracked on one of
> your assumptions. You seem to be assuming that the bug is such that
> observing a single positive observation of the symptom at a position i
> in the linear history _does not_ completely rule out that the guilty
> commit occurs after that point. I would have thought the generally
> more applicable assumption is that, given that generally you don't
> have a bug ridden system where more than one bug causes the same
> symptom _within the history of interest_, that a single observation of
> the symptom does totally rule out the bug after that point (whilst
> intermittency clearly not having observed the bug before that point
> doesn't completely rule out the guilty commit being earlier, although
> it should increase the liklihood estimate of the bug being later).

I think it's reasonable to expect false-positives as well as
false-negatives.  e.g. you're looking for a commit that slows down the
frame rate.  But on one of the good commits the hard disk hits a bad
sector and takes a bit longer to retrieve data and so you get a
false-positive.

It's a bit contrived, but I'm sure you can think of better example

John

  reply	other threads:[~2009-03-16 10:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-09  1:40 Generalised bisection Ealdwulf Wuffinga
2009-03-10  7:08 ` Christian Couder
2009-03-11  8:59   ` Ealdwulf Wuffinga
2009-03-11  9:35     ` John Tapsell
2009-03-11 12:05       ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-03-11 12:08         ` John Tapsell
2009-03-11 13:04           ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-03-11 13:24             ` John Tapsell
2009-03-11 22:14               ` Ealdwulf Wuffinga
2009-03-11 22:15       ` Ealdwulf Wuffinga
2009-03-12  6:45         ` John Tapsell
2009-03-12 10:55           ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-03-12 18:02             ` Steven Tweed
2009-03-13 10:00               ` Ealdwulf Wuffinga
2009-03-13 12:49               ` Ealdwulf Wuffinga
2009-03-13 15:19                 ` Steven Tweed
2009-03-15 19:16                   ` Ealdwulf Wuffinga
2009-03-16 10:29                     ` Steven Tweed
2009-03-16 10:37                       ` John Tapsell [this message]
2009-03-16 22:47                         ` Ealdwulf Wuffinga
2009-03-16 22:08                       ` Ealdwulf Wuffinga
2009-03-13  9:58           ` Ealdwulf Wuffinga
2009-03-13 10:55             ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-03-13 12:42               ` John Tapsell
2009-03-13 13:56                 ` Johannes Schindelin

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