Re: Pulling tags from git.git

[Andreas Ericsson <ae@op5.se>]

A Large Angry SCM wrote:
> Andreas Ericsson wrote:
> 
>> Junio C Hamano wrote:
>>
>>> Andreas Ericsson <ae@op5.se> writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>> With the git or git+ssh protocol, tags will be autofollowed
>>>> when you do a pull (only signed tags, I think).  The
>>>> auto-following is done by detecting tags that are fetched,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ah, you are correct.  We do not follow lightweight tags; I am
>>> not sure if we should.
>>>
>>
>> I'm fairly sure we shouldn't. The default update-hook prevents them 
>> (if enabled), and I can't for the life of me think of why anyone would 
>> want to distribute such tags.
>>
>> OTOH, preventing unannotated tags from being pushed seems like a 
>> better way than to not have the ability to auto-follow those same 
>> tags. After all, it's better to discourage than to disallow.
>>
> 
> Before you do this, please explain why unannotated tags are not useful, 
> and so should not be allowed to be pushed.


Imagine Linus, getting his "please pull" emails and doing so only to 
find dozens of temporary tags fetched by the pull. Junio's patch (if I 
read it correctly) unconditionally fetches *ALL* tags reachable from the 
top of the commit-chain, which means there is no longer any way to keep 
temporary tags in a repo from which someone else will pull.

I for one riddle my repos with temporary tags whenever I'm trying 
something I'm not so sure of, or find an interesting bug or a design 
decision I'm not 100% sure of. Perhaps I should rather do this with 
branches, but imo branches are for doing work, whereas tags just mark a 
spot in the development so I easily can find them with gitk or some such.

I may be biased by the way we do things at work. In our workflow, all 
tags meant to be distributed have a short note in them which explains 
the rationale of the tag. For example, new versions have a very brief 
changelog that sales-people get on email (a blessing, that, since we 
devs no longer have to update feature-lists and such).

Tags not meant to be distributed are unannotated, and unannotated tags 
are kept out of published repos which are always stored at a central 
server. Everybody synchronize to those central repos, so nobody pulls 
from each other. Perhaps this is how the kernel devs work too, but if it 
ever changes the update hook will no longer be able to safeguard from it 
and the, in my eyes, temporary tags will be distributed in a 
criss-crossing mesh so no-one will ever know where it came from or who 
created it or why. I.e. a Bad Thing.

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