From: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
To: Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Starting to think about sha-256?
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 13:56:07 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <44F1DCB7.6020804@garzik.org> (raw)
Recent press[1] is talking about sha-1 collisions again. Even though
the reported attack was against a weakened variant of sha-1 (64, not 80,
passes), it serves as a useful point to start talking about the future.
I argue that sha-256 is better suited to git's purposes, and to modern
machines, than sha-1.
Upsides to sha-256:
* not just a bit increase, but a stronger algorithm. there is more
mixing, doing a more-than-incrementally better job at avoiding collisions.
* the bit increase itself provides more hash space, theoretically
reducing collisions.
* properly aligned, a set of 32-byte hashes won't straddle CPU cachelines.
Downsides to sha-256:
* git protocol/storage format change implications.
* increase in storage size (20 to 32 bytes per hash).
* fewer hand-optimized algorithm variants have been implemented.
* likely more CPU cycles per hash, though I haven't measured.
Wikimedia page has lotsa info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Hash_Algorithm
Maybe sha-256 could be considered for the next major-rev of git?
Jeff
[1] http://www.heise-security.co.uk/news/77244
next reply other threads:[~2006-08-27 17:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-08-27 17:56 Jeff Garzik [this message]
2006-08-27 20:30 ` Starting to think about sha-256? Krzysztof Halasa
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608271343120.27779@g5.o sdl.org>
2006-08-27 20:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-08-27 21:14 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-08-27 22:02 ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-08-27 22:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-08-28 17:27 ` David Lang
2006-08-28 17:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-08-28 18:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-08-28 18:32 ` Jeff King
2006-08-28 18:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-08-28 19:00 ` Jeff King
2006-08-28 20:12 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-08-28 20:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-08-28 21:12 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-08-28 21:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-08-28 23:09 ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-08-28 23:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-08-29 6:17 ` Florian Weimer
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2006-09-05 9:05 linux
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