From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Andreas Ericsson Subject: Re: git and time Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 09:52:34 +0200 Message-ID: <451CD0C2.2020805@op5.se> References: <20060928013914.16514.qmail@web51005.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Matthew L Foster , Shawn Pearce , Junio C Hamano , git@vger.kernel.org, Jeff King , Jakub Narebski X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Fri Sep 29 09:53:05 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git@gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.176.167]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GTDAw-00013N-Pp for gcvg-git@gmane.org; Fri, 29 Sep 2006 09:52:51 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1030405AbWI2Hwi (ORCPT ); Fri, 29 Sep 2006 03:52:38 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1030407AbWI2Hwi (ORCPT ); Fri, 29 Sep 2006 03:52:38 -0400 Received: from linux-server1.op5.se ([193.201.96.2]:2211 "EHLO smtp-gw1.op5.se") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1030405AbWI2Hwg (ORCPT ); Fri, 29 Sep 2006 03:52:36 -0400 Received: by smtp-gw1.op5.se (Postfix, from userid 588) id BC3386BD5F; Fri, 29 Sep 2006 09:52:35 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.4 (2006-07-25) on linux-server1.op5.se X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.4 Received: from [192.168.1.20] (unknown [213.88.215.14]) by smtp-gw1.op5.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 621AA6BD11; Fri, 29 Sep 2006 09:52:34 +0200 (CEST) User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060913) To: Linus Torvalds In-Reply-To: Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: Linus Torvalds wrote: > > On Wed, 27 Sep 2006, Matthew L Foster wrote: >> From a web display/generic notion of integrity perspective time order >> matters to me but it looks like I am the only one. Keeping track of >> _local_ commit time would not add any dependencies. > > Actually, I think one problem here is that anybody why looks at just the > gitweb interface may not realize how git works. > > If you use gitk as your primary way of learning about a git problem, the > whole time issue just goes away, because gitk shows the _real_ > relationships so well. > > I used gitk in all my initial explanations of git, because it turned a > fairly abstract "here, let me explain how it works" into a "See? Look at > this" kind of situation. > True that. I would have had a hard time introducing git as The SCM in the company if it hadn't been for gitk and qgit. They both let you just skip over 90% of that initial steep part of the learning curve and jump straight to work. > I think gitweb is great (in a way I have _never_ felt about any of the CVS > web interfaces I have ever seen), but gitweb doesn't really explain how > things work as well as gitk does. > Someone started hacking on a web-thingie to show the graph. Whatever happened to that? If it's no longer alive, perhaps we could add some qgit/gitk screenshots to the git wiki/docs so the people who spend most of their lives in browsers can get some visual aid in understanding the way git works. -- Andreas Ericsson andreas.ericsson@op5.se OP5 AB www.op5.se Tel: +46 8-230225 Fax: +46 8-230231