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From: Steven Grimm <koreth@midwinter.com>
To: Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: kernel.org mirroring (Re: [GIT PULL] MMC update)
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 23:56:14 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <457A6C1E.4080302@midwinter.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0612081453430.3516@woody.osdl.org>

Linus Torvalds wrote:
> Looking at the memcached operations, they have the "read" op (aka "get"), 
> but they seem to have no "read-for-fill" op. So memcached fundamentally 
> doesn't fix this problem, at least without explicit serialization by the 
> client.
>   

Actually, memcached does support an operation that would work for this: 
the "add" request, which creates a new cache entry if and only if the 
key is not already in the cache. If the key is already present, the 
request fails. You can use that to implement a simple named mutex, and 
it supports a client-specified timeout. The one thing it doesn't support 
that you described is a notion of deleting a key when a particular 
client disconnects, but as you say, that should only happen in the case 
of buggy clients anyway.

Mind you, I'm not convinced memcached is necessarily the right answer 
for this problem, but it does provide a way to implement the required 
locking semantics.

BTW, I'm one of the main contributors to memcached, so if it does end up 
looking like a good choice except for some minor issue or another, I may 
be able to tweak it to cover whatever is missing. For example, the 
"delete a key on disconnect" thing would be fairly straightforward, if 
it's actually necessary in practice.

-Steve

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-12-09  7:56 UTC|newest]

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2006-12-07 19:05                     ` kernel.org mirroring (Re: [GIT PULL] MMC update) Linus Torvalds
2006-12-07 19:16                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-12-07 19:30                         ` Olivier Galibert
2006-12-07 19:57                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-12-07 23:50                             ` Olivier Galibert
2006-12-07 23:56                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-12-08 11:25                               ` Jakub Narebski
2006-12-08 12:57                             ` Rogan Dawes
2006-12-08 13:38                               ` Jakub Narebski
2006-12-08 14:31                                 ` Rogan Dawes
2006-12-08 15:38                                   ` Jonas Fonseca
2006-12-09  1:28                                 ` Martin Langhoff
2006-12-09  2:03                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-12-09  2:52                                     ` Martin Langhoff
2006-12-09  5:09                                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-12-09  5:34                                         ` Martin Langhoff
2006-12-09 16:26                                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-12-08 16:16                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-12-08 16:35                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-08 16:42                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-12-08 19:49                                     ` Lars Hjemli
2006-12-08 19:51                                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-12-08 19:59                                         ` Lars Hjemli
2006-12-08 20:02                                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-12-10  9:43                                     ` rda
2006-12-08 16:54                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-12-08 17:04                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-12-08 17:40                                       ` Jeff Garzik
2006-12-08 23:27                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-08 23:46                                       ` Michael K. Edwards
2006-12-08 23:49                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-12-09  0:18                                           ` Michael K. Edwards
2006-12-09  0:23                                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-12-09  0:49                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-09  0:51                                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-12-09  4:36                                           ` Michael K. Edwards
2006-12-09  9:27                                           ` Jeff Garzik
     [not found]                                       ` <4579FABC.5070509@garzik.org>
2006-12-09  0:45                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-09  0:47                                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-12-09  9:16                                           ` Jeff Garzik
2006-12-09  1:56                                       ` Martin Langhoff
2006-12-09 11:51                                         ` Jakub Narebski
2006-12-09 12:42                                           ` Jeff Garzik
2006-12-09 13:37                                             ` Jakub Narebski
2006-12-09 14:43                                               ` Jeff Garzik
2006-12-09 17:02                                                 ` Jakub Narebski
2006-12-09 17:27                                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-12-10  4:07                                               ` Martin Langhoff
2006-12-10 10:09                                                 ` Jakub Narebski
2006-12-10 12:41                                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-12-10 13:02                                                     ` Jakub Narebski
2006-12-10 13:45                                                       ` Jeff Garzik
2006-12-10 19:11                                                         ` Jakub Narebski
2006-12-10 19:50                                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-10 20:27                                                             ` Jakub Narebski
2006-12-10 20:30                                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-10 22:01                                                                 ` Martin Langhoff
2006-12-10 22:14                                                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-12-10 22:08                                                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-12-10 21:01                                                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-12-10 22:05                                                           ` Jeff Garzik
2006-12-10 22:59                                                             ` Jakub Narebski
2006-12-11  2:16                                                               ` Martin Langhoff
2006-12-11  8:59                                                                 ` Jakub Narebski
2006-12-11 10:18                                                                   ` Martin Langhoff
2006-12-09 18:04                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-09 18:30                                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-12-10  3:55                                             ` Martin Langhoff
2006-12-10  7:05                                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-12-12 21:19                                                 ` Jakub Narebski
2006-12-09  7:56                                       ` Steven Grimm [this message]
2006-12-07 19:30                         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-07 19:39                           ` Shawn Pearce
2006-12-07 19:58                             ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-07 23:33                               ` Michael K. Edwards
2006-12-07 19:58                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-12-07 20:05                           ` Junio C Hamano
2006-12-07 20:09                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-12-07 22:11                               ` Junio C Hamano
2006-12-08  9:43                       ` Jakub Narebski
2006-12-11  3:40 linux
2006-12-11  9:30 ` Jakub Narebski

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