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From: Rogan Dawes <lists@dawes.za.net>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Dana How <danahow@gmail.com>,
	David Lang <david.lang@digitalinsight.com>,
	Sam Vilain <sam@vilain.net>,
	Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	Junio C Hamano <junkio@cox.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/6] Teach "fsck" not to follow subproject links
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 11:00:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <461F46B5.2020007@dawes.za.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0704121203290.4061@woody.linux-foundation.org>

Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> Yes.
> 
> The issues for hosting sites are very different from the issues of 
> individual developers having their own git repositories, and I agree 100% 
> that both alternates and shared object directories make tons of sense for 
> hosting.
> 
>> Below I talk about a possible way we could use git
>> without changing it (since I recognize this would be a minority usage
>> pattern).
> 
> I hope it wouldn't even be a minority usage pattern. I am a firm believer 
> that distributed SCM's and git in particular makes a lot more sense for 
> source control hosting than CVS or SVN do. I'm really disappointed with 
> things like sourceforge, and part of the problem is literally that a 
> centralized SCM is really *fundamentally* wrong for a hosting entity. 
> 
> Using a distributed SCM just makes _so_ much more sense for hosting 
> projects, and I've actually very much wanted to try to make sure that git 
> can help people who host things. 


> And btw, I think the shared object model really works very well, but I 
> think it has to be paired with some stricter rules than people who use 
> their own repos tend to have. For example, end-point developers have 
> become very used to rebasing and generally rewriting history (or just 
> resetting to an older state), and that's something that works find in a 
> "local repository" setup, but it's also the kinds of patterns that can 
> really screw you in a hosted and shared-object environment.
> 

Would it not make sense for a hosting environment to say, if you are 
using alternates, or shared object directories, then you need to include 
*all* the refs in *all* the projects if you ever do an fsck?

I'm not sure how well git will scale in this case, although it just 
should be a matter of how well git scales to dealing with a single 
project with tens of thousands of refs/tags/etc. The only problem might 
be in passing all those refs/tags to fsck in one go. STDIN, I guess?

Rogan

  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-13  9:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-10  4:12 [PATCH 0/6] Initial subproject support (RFC?) Linus Torvalds
     [not found] ` <Pi ne.LNX.4.64.0704092115020.6730@woody.linux-foundation.org>
2007-04-10  4:13 ` [PATCH 1/6] diff-lib: use ce_mode_from_stat() rather than messing with modes manually Linus Torvalds
2007-04-10  4:13 ` [PATCH 2/6] Avoid overflowing name buffer in deep directory structures Linus Torvalds
2007-04-10  4:14 ` [PATCH 3/6] Add 'resolve_gitlink_ref()' helper function Linus Torvalds
2007-04-10  9:38   ` Alex Riesen
2007-04-10 14:58     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-10 15:35       ` Alex Riesen
2007-04-10 15:52         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-10 15:57           ` Alex Riesen
2007-04-10 16:16             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-10 15:54       ` Josef Weidendorfer
2007-04-10  4:14 ` [PATCH 4/6] Add "S_IFDIRLNK" file mode infrastructure for git links Linus Torvalds
2007-04-10  4:15 ` [PATCH 5/6] Teach "fsck" not to follow subproject links Linus Torvalds
2007-04-11 22:41   ` Sam Vilain
2007-04-11 22:48     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-11 22:59       ` Sam Vilain
2007-04-11 23:16         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-11 23:05           ` David Lang
2007-04-11 23:53             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-11 23:30               ` David Lang
2007-04-12  2:14                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-12  2:30                   ` Junio C Hamano
2007-04-12 17:18                   ` David Lang
2007-04-12 18:32                   ` Dana How
2007-04-12 19:17                     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-13  9:00                       ` Rogan Dawes [this message]
2007-04-13 15:23                         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-15  6:50                       ` Dana How
2007-04-12  0:00               ` Dana How
2007-04-12  0:03               ` Sam Vilain
2007-04-12  0:34           ` Junio C Hamano
2007-04-12  1:52             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-12  2:00               ` Junio C Hamano
2007-04-12  2:06                 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-04-12  2:28                   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-11 23:30         ` Dana How
2007-04-10  4:20 ` [PATCH 6/6] Teach core object handling functions about gitlinks Linus Torvalds
2007-04-10  8:40   ` Frank Lichtenheld
2007-04-10 11:31     ` Alex Riesen
2007-04-10 14:55     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-10 16:28   ` Josef Weidendorfer
2007-04-10 16:50     ` Alex Riesen
2007-04-10 17:23       ` Josef Weidendorfer
2007-04-10 18:45     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-10 19:04       ` Andy Parkins
2007-04-10 19:20         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-10 20:19           ` Junio C Hamano
2007-04-10 20:33             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-12  0:12               ` Sam Vilain
2007-04-12  0:35                 ` Martin Waitz
2007-04-12  2:01                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-12  3:56                   ` Sam Vilain
2007-04-10 19:41         ` David Lang
2007-04-10 20:06         ` Junio C Hamano
2007-04-10 19:29       ` Josef Weidendorfer
2007-04-10 19:45         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-11 23:47           ` Sam Vilain
2007-04-12  0:13             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-12  0:42       ` Torgil Svensson
2007-04-12  0:56         ` Martin Waitz
2007-04-12 21:23           ` Torgil Svensson
2007-04-11 23:36     ` Sam Vilain
2007-04-11  8:06   ` Martin Waitz
2007-04-11  8:29     ` Alex Riesen
2007-04-11  8:36       ` Martin Waitz
2007-04-11  8:49         ` Alex Riesen
2007-04-11  9:20           ` Martin Waitz
2007-04-11  9:15         ` Junio C Hamano
2007-04-11 10:03           ` Martin Waitz
2007-04-11 20:01             ` Junio C Hamano
2007-04-11 22:19               ` Martin Waitz
2007-04-11 22:36                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-11  9:47     ` Andy Parkins
2007-04-11 11:31       ` Martin Waitz
2007-04-11 15:16     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-11 22:49       ` Sam Vilain
2007-04-11 23:54       ` Martin Waitz
2007-04-12  1:57         ` Brian Gernhardt
2007-04-12 15:12         ` Josef Weidendorfer
2007-04-10  4:46 ` [PATCH 0/6] Initial subproject support (RFC?) Linus Torvalds
2007-04-10 13:04   ` Alex Riesen
2007-04-10 15:13     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-10 15:48       ` Alex Riesen
2007-04-10 16:07         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-10 16:43           ` Alex Riesen
2007-04-10 19:32           ` Junio C Hamano
2007-04-10 20:11             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-10 20:52               ` Junio C Hamano
2007-04-10 21:02                 ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-04-10 21:27                   ` Junio C Hamano
2007-04-10 21:03                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-04-15 23:21                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-04-11  8:08                 ` David Kågedal
2007-04-11  9:32                   ` Junio C Hamano
2007-04-15 23:25                     ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-04-11  8:32     ` Martin Waitz
2007-04-11  8:42       ` Alex Riesen
2007-04-11  8:57         ` Martin Waitz
2007-04-10 13:39   ` [PATCH] allow git-update-index work on subprojects Alex Riesen
2007-04-10 23:19     ` [PATCH] Allow " Alex Riesen
2007-04-11  2:55       ` Junio C Hamano

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