* Attributes for commits
@ 2007-06-09 13:11 Paul Franz
2007-06-09 13:49 ` Johan Herland
2007-06-09 18:48 ` Robin Rosenberg
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From: Paul Franz @ 2007-06-09 13:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: git
I am a ClearCase administrator and one of the things that I love
about it is the ability to assign attributes to versions of files. Is
there anybody thinking of adding the ability to assign attributes to a
commit? I ask because I was thinking about how I would move from
ClearCase to git and part of our process is to assign the BugNum
attribute to every checkin so that we can see what bugs have been fixed.
We also track the files checked in the bug tracking software to. Thus
giving us a two way linkage between repository and the bug tracking
system. This is VERY useful. And I was wondering if there are any
thought to this for commits.
Now, I will be honest it is possible that this has already been done (I
have not read all the documentation yet) and I am justing wasting
bandwidth. In which, please excuse my ignorance and tell me to just RTFM.
Paul Franz
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* Re: Attributes for commits
2007-06-09 13:11 Attributes for commits Paul Franz
@ 2007-06-09 13:49 ` Johan Herland
2007-06-09 18:48 ` Robin Rosenberg
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From: Johan Herland @ 2007-06-09 13:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: git; +Cc: Paul Franz
On Saturday 09 June 2007, Paul Franz wrote:
> I am a ClearCase administrator and one of the things that I love
> about it is the ability to assign attributes to versions of files. Is
> there anybody thinking of adding the ability to assign attributes to a
> commit? I ask because I was thinking about how I would move from
> ClearCase to git and part of our process is to assign the BugNum
> attribute to every checkin so that we can see what bugs have been fixed.
> We also track the files checked in the bug tracking software to. Thus
> giving us a two way linkage between repository and the bug tracking
> system. This is VERY useful. And I was wondering if there are any
> thought to this for commits.
>
> Now, I will be honest it is possible that this has already been done (I
> have not read all the documentation yet) and I am justing wasting
> bandwidth. In which, please excuse my ignorance and tell me to just RTFM.
Well, we're sort of in the process of getting there. I posted an initial
proof-of-concept implementation of git 'notes' a while back. Git notes is
a general mechanism for providing free-form annotations on git objects
after they've been created. My initial posting sparked a discussion [1],
and I'm currently in the process of reimplementing the notes concept
based on the outcome of that discussion.
So the thing you want will hopefully be in a future release.
Have fun!
...Johan
[1]: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/46770/focus=48540
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Johan Herland, <johan@herland.net>
www.herland.net
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* Re: Attributes for commits
2007-06-09 13:11 Attributes for commits Paul Franz
2007-06-09 13:49 ` Johan Herland
@ 2007-06-09 18:48 ` Robin Rosenberg
2007-06-10 2:10 ` Paul Franz
1 sibling, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Robin Rosenberg @ 2007-06-09 18:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Paul Franz; +Cc: git
lördag 09 juni 2007 skrev Paul Franz:
> I am a ClearCase administrator and one of the things that I love
> about it is the ability to assign attributes to versions of files. Is
> there anybody thinking of adding the ability to assign attributes to a
> commit? I ask because I was thinking about how I would move from
> ClearCase to git and part of our process is to assign the BugNum
> attribute to every checkin so that we can see what bugs have been fixed.
> We also track the files checked in the bug tracking software to. Thus
> giving us a two way linkage between repository and the bug tracking
> system. This is VERY useful. And I was wondering if there are any
> thought to this for commits.
>
> Now, I will be honest it is possible that this has already been done (I
> have not read all the documentation yet) and I am justing wasting
> bandwidth. In which, please excuse my ignorance and tell me to just RTFM.
>
> Paul Franz
>
We use the convention of putting the bug number as the first work on the first line of
the checkin, e.g. "3399 Add attributes for commits". The advantage over other methods
is that it is always there, without the need to further investigations of assigned attributes.
This convention has nothing to do with Git though. It works with any type of repo.
-- robin
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* Re: Attributes for commits
2007-06-09 18:48 ` Robin Rosenberg
@ 2007-06-10 2:10 ` Paul Franz
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From: Paul Franz @ 2007-06-10 2:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Robin Rosenberg; +Cc: git
But the question is how many allow you to easily query this info. That
is one of the things I like about ClearCase's use of attributes is the
ability to query the repository about where it is set. For example, in
the case of git an attribute called "Status" on the commit could help
communicate to others what the status of a commit or better yet an
attribute on a branch. The one thing that I have realized is that change
management is all about communication and the repositories are just one
more way of communicating especially if the proper information can be
extracted and maintained by the repository. A good example of this is
CVS and merges. It is not CVS does merging poorly. It is that:
1) It has no mechanism in place for itself to know that the merge
has been taken place between different branches.
2) There is no way for people to know that the changes from one
branch has been merged to another.
The second is where meta data helps. In the case of ClearCase, they
something called a hyper-link that tells that a change to a file has
been merged from one branch to another and ClearCase uses this to know
how to merge future changes.
Now, I am not trying to turn git into ClearCase. I just see attributes
as a great way to help communicate things, from status of a branch to
what bug this change is related. Of course, part of adding attributes
would be adding a way to query git to find the commits or branches that
have the associated attributes.
Paul Franz
Robin Rosenberg wrote:
> lördag 09 juni 2007 skrev Paul Franz:
>
>> I am a ClearCase administrator and one of the things that I love
>> about it is the ability to assign attributes to versions of files. Is
>> there anybody thinking of adding the ability to assign attributes to a
>> commit? I ask because I was thinking about how I would move from
>> ClearCase to git and part of our process is to assign the BugNum
>> attribute to every checkin so that we can see what bugs have been fixed.
>> We also track the files checked in the bug tracking software to. Thus
>> giving us a two way linkage between repository and the bug tracking
>> system. This is VERY useful. And I was wondering if there are any
>> thought to this for commits.
>>
>> Now, I will be honest it is possible that this has already been done (I
>> have not read all the documentation yet) and I am justing wasting
>> bandwidth. In which, please excuse my ignorance and tell me to just RTFM.
>>
>> Paul Franz
>>
>>
>
> We use the convention of putting the bug number as the first work on the first line of
> the checkin, e.g. "3399 Add attributes for commits". The advantage over other methods
> is that it is always there, without the need to further investigations of assigned attributes.
>
> This convention has nothing to do with Git though. It works with any type of repo.
>
> -- robin
>
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Wealth without work.
Pleasure without conscience.
Knowledge without character.
Commerce without morality.
Science without humanity.
Worship without sacrifice.
Politics without principle.
-- Mohandas Gandhi
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