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From: Steven Grimm <koreth@midwinter.com>
To: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
Cc: Matthieu Moy <Matthieu.Moy@imag.fr>,
	Andy Parkins <andyparkins@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: Basename matching during rename/copy detection
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 09:57:30 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <467AADFA.9040804@midwinter.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0706211649520.4059@racer.site>

Johannes Schindelin wrote:
> No, that message did not convince me. It was way too short on the side of 
> facts.
>   

Short of posting multiple historical versions of the third-party source 
code in question, I'm not sure what I can do to convince you. And I'd 
rather not violate the license agreement on that code. I would have 
thought, though, that the fact that I supplied a detailed, reproducible 
test case with obviously broken behavior would itself have been pretty 
convincing.

The fact that not all projects contain any short files, or any files 
whose contents have ever been identical, does not cause git's behavior 
in that test case to be correct. "It's broken and unfixable" is one 
thing; "It's broken and we don't care" is another; and "It's broken and 
we care but it's not at the top of anyone's priority list to fix" is 
something else again. All of those are fine, but "If it's broken, you 
are stupid" and "If it's broken, it's a sign your project isn't real" 
are not.

Or, to take another tack on this entirely, it is not the proper function 
of a version control system to dictate the contents of the projects 
under its control. It should take whatever we humans throw at it and 
reproduce those contents faithfully with coherent, non-jumbled history. 
It should do so even if what we're throwing at it is completely stupid.

By the way, I'll toss out one more example of legitimate duplicate 
files, though admittedly one where you might not care so much about 
history jumbling: if you have a project that makes use of two GPL 
libraries or utilities whose source you want to keep locally, e.g. 
because you are making local modifications, you will have two copies of 
the GNU "COPYING" file. Neither one produced by a build system (or at 
least, not by *your* build system) and you are not permitted by the 
terms of the GPL to publish a copy of either piece of software without a 
verbatim copy of its license -- it says so right in section 1 of the GPL 
(the "keep intact" wording.) Removing one of those copies and expecting 
a build system to reconstruct it after someone clones your repository 
would arguably be a violation of the GPL.

-Steve

  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-21 16:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-21  3:06 Basename matching during rename/copy detection Shawn O. Pearce
2007-06-21  3:13 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-06-21  8:00   ` Andy Parkins
2007-06-21  8:07     ` Junio C Hamano
2007-06-21  9:50       ` Andy Parkins
2007-06-21 11:52         ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-06-21 12:44           ` Andy Parkins
2007-06-21 12:53             ` Matthieu Moy
2007-06-21 13:10               ` Jeff King
2007-06-21 13:18               ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-06-21 13:25                 ` Matthieu Moy
2007-06-21 13:52                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-06-21 15:37                     ` Steven Grimm
2007-06-21 15:53                       ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-06-21 16:57                         ` Steven Grimm [this message]
2007-06-21 13:22             ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-06-21  3:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-21 11:52   ` [PATCH] diffcore-rename: favour identical basenames Johannes Schindelin
2007-06-21 13:19     ` Jeff King
2007-06-21 14:03       ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-06-21 16:20       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-21 17:52         ` Junio C Hamano
2007-06-21 18:24           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-22 15:19         ` Andy Parkins
2007-06-22 15:28           ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-06-22 17:51             ` Aidan Van Dyk
2007-06-22  1:14       ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-06-22  5:41         ` Jeff King
2007-06-22 10:22           ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-06-22  7:17         ` Johannes Sixt
2007-06-22 10:39           ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-06-22 10:52             ` 100% (was: [PATCH] diffcore-rename: favour identical basenames) David Kastrup
2007-06-22 12:49               ` Johannes Schindelin
     [not found]                 ` <86abusi1fw.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz>
2007-06-23  1:31                   ` 100% Johannes Schindelin
2007-06-23 10:18                     ` 100% René Scharfe
2007-06-23 10:56                       ` 100% Johannes Schindelin
2007-06-23 11:41                         ` 100% René Scharfe
2007-06-23 12:00                           ` 100% Johannes Schindelin
2007-06-23 12:11                             ` 100% René Scharfe
2007-06-23 12:21                               ` 100% Johannes Schindelin
2007-06-24 22:23                                 ` 100% René Scharfe
2007-06-23 19:33                         ` 100% Junio C Hamano
2007-06-23 20:41                           ` 100% Johannes Schindelin
2007-06-23  5:44     ` [PATCH] diffcore-rename: favour identical basenames Junio C Hamano

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