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From: Simon 'corecode' Schubert <corecode@fs.ei.tum.de>
To: Martin Langhoff <martin.langhoff@gmail.com>
Cc: esr@thyrsus.com, Michael Haggerty <mhagger@alum.mit.edu>,
	 Julian Phillips <julian@quantumfyre.co.uk>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, dev <dev@cvs2svn.tigris.org>
Subject: Re: CVS -> SVN -> Git
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 21:14:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <469FB80A.8000001@fs.ei.tum.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46a038f90707151805j454b57fbvb4d7ed526e1e64ce@mail.gmail.com>

[sorry for jumping in so late, didn't read git@vger for a while]

Martin Langhoff wrote:
> On 7/15/07, Eric S. Raymond <esr@thyrsus.com> wrote:
>> Not quite.  I'm suggesting it's an appropriate lingua franca for 
>> centralized
>> VCSes with branching, e.g. everything pre-Arch.

I do not think Eric is right here.  You will allways lose information when converting CVS to svn, and if it is just the uncertainty, the non-atomicity.  This is also information (hidden one, though).

> That's a huge goal that gets in the way of waht we want to do here: we
> are trying to save time, not embark on some huge mission.
> 
> cvs2svn has all the "wtf-did-cvs-mean-by-that" algorithms that are
> very hard to write and maintain, and it seems to be the best one at
> that. Of course, it also writes SVN repos -- but I'm sure that's the
> easiest part.

True.  However, cvs2svn has many assumptions (or at least has had when I last checked) which are targeted to svn, and unsuitable for a generic system (tags + branches).

>     We don't need no meta VCS for any of this.

Yes.  I've already done what people want, it is not called cvs2xxx, but fromcvs [1].  I don't think it is necessary to define an output format.  Of course, that's possible, but limiting yourself to a file format means you're losing flexibility, which is needed for efficient, correct and fast repository conversion.

cheers
  simon

[1] http://ww2.fs.ei.tum.de/~corecode/hg/fromcvs/

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-07-19 19:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-13 14:48 CVS -> SVN -> Git Julian Phillips
2007-07-13 23:03 ` Michael Haggerty
2007-07-14  5:30   ` Martin Langhoff
2007-07-14 17:09     ` Michael Haggerty
2007-07-14 17:32       ` Chris Shoemaker
2007-07-14 20:01         ` Michael Haggerty
2007-07-14 18:14       ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-07-15  2:22         ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-07-14 19:52       ` Eric S. Raymond
2007-07-14 20:58         ` Junio C Hamano
2007-07-14 21:50         ` Oswald Buddenhagen
2007-07-14 22:19         ` Michael Haggerty
2007-07-14 22:44           ` Karl Fogel
2007-07-14 23:23           ` David Frech
2007-07-15  2:30             ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-07-15 11:48             ` Michael Haggerty
2007-07-16  1:08               ` Martin Langhoff
2007-07-16  1:13                 ` Julian Phillips
2007-07-16  1:30                 ` Karl Fogel
2007-07-15  1:39           ` Eric S. Raymond
2007-07-15 12:04             ` Michael Haggerty
2007-07-15 13:36               ` Eric S. Raymond
2007-07-16  1:05             ` Martin Langhoff
2007-07-19 12:02               ` Markus Schiltknecht
2007-07-20  3:51                 ` Karl Fogel
2007-07-19 19:14               ` Simon 'corecode' Schubert [this message]
2007-07-20  8:45                 ` Markus Schiltknecht
2007-07-15 23:09       ` Scott Lamb
2007-07-19 19:18     ` Simon 'corecode' Schubert
2007-07-19 19:15 ` Simon 'corecode' Schubert
2007-07-20  5:58   ` Julian Phillips

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