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From: Marius Storm-Olsen <marius@trolltech.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>,
	"Shawn O. Pearce" <spearce@spearce.org>,
	Julian Phillips <julian@quantumfyre.co.uk>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] Teach "git branch" about --new-workdir
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:14:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46A5DF1F.2030307@trolltech.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7vd4yigmla.fsf@assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net>

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Junio C Hamano said the following on 24.07.2007 11:47:
> Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> writes:
>>> While you guys are discussing this, please please keep in mind
>>> that there are Windows users (/me raises his hand) out there
>>> that really really want this too. So, please try to keep it
>>> light on the symlinks.
>> Easy: use cygwin.
>> 
>> Okay, a bit more seriously again: in the recent weeks, it seems
>> that more and more Windows users are asking for features.  Since
>> I guess you are a developer (why else would you want to use git),
>> IMHO it is your itch to scratch.

Yes, I fully agree with this, and I don't have the attitude that 
others should work for me. I'm trying to free up some 'spare time' 
resources so I can pitch in on the effort of making Git work neatly on 
Windows. However, I feared I won't be able to get working on it before 
you guys had decided on a design, so I just wanted voice my opinion on 
the design, so Windows users are not lost in this.


> I do not know this is an appropriate itch to scratch for a Windows
> developer to begin with.  The new-workdir setting *is* about
> symlinked .git/ metainfo space.  If somebody wants to work on a
> filesystem without symlink, he should not be using new-workdir but
> something else.  E.g. GIT_DIR + GIT_WORK_TREE, or perhaps GIT_DIR +
> core.worktree comes to mind.

That's is definitely an option, though it seems to me that its more 
like giving up than a finding a proper solution. In any case, it would 
result in two completely different workflows on systems with and 
without symlink support. I work on both, and would like my workflow to 
be consistent. Of course I could easily add my own scripts on top to 
achieve this, but then we're going back into h4x0r land and not making 
Git more 'available'.

The new-workdir feature doesn't *have* to be about symlinked .git/ 
metainfo space, but could also be about symref'ed .git/ metainfo.
(A discussion was done in 2005s "Getting rid of symlinks in .git?", 
but the conclusion was that it would slow it down too much? *ponder*)

I think you're right in that this is probably not the appropriate itch 
to scratch for a Windows developer to start with, and I have my own 
list of issues to work on when I get the time. File stat'ing 
(daemon/service), CRLF issues, de-SH'ifying commands, non-MinGW native 
build of Git, etc.. Lots to keep my fingers busy :-)

Though, let me also say that I already love working with Git on 
Windows. And I thank each and every one who's working on it, for 
providing such an excellent tool.

-- 
.marius


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-07-24 11:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-22 18:56 [PATCH 3/3] Teach "git branch" about --new-workdir Johannes Schindelin
2007-07-22 19:16 ` Daniel Barkalow
2007-07-22 19:24   ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-07-22 21:09 ` Julian Phillips
2007-07-22 21:25   ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-07-22 21:50     ` Julian Phillips
2007-07-22 21:59       ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-07-22 22:24         ` Julian Phillips
2007-07-22 22:46           ` Jakub Narebski
2007-07-22 23:37             ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-07-22 23:02           ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-07-23  3:56             ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-07-23  4:45               ` Junio C Hamano
2007-07-23  5:14                 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-07-23  5:22                   ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-07-23 10:32                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-07-23 10:42                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-07-24  8:19                 ` Marius Storm-Olsen
2007-07-24  9:02                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-07-24  9:47                     ` Junio C Hamano
2007-07-24 11:07                       ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-07-24 11:14                       ` Marius Storm-Olsen [this message]
2007-07-24 12:06                         ` Julian Phillips
2007-07-24 12:28                           ` Marius Storm-Olsen
2007-07-24 12:37                           ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-07-24 13:47                             ` Josef Weidendorfer
2007-07-24 13:54                               ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-07-24 14:21                                 ` Josef Weidendorfer
2007-07-25  0:09                           ` Jakub Narebski
2007-07-24 12:42                         ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-07-24 13:26                           ` Marius Storm-Olsen
2007-07-24 13:29                             ` Marius Storm-Olsen
2007-07-24 13:33                             ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-07-24 18:02                               ` Marius Storm-Olsen
2007-07-24 18:30                                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-07-24 19:36                                   ` Marius Storm-Olsen
2007-07-24 23:15                                     ` Alex Riesen
2007-07-25  6:47                                       ` Marius Storm-Olsen
2007-07-25  9:39                                         ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-07-25 10:22                                           ` Steven Grimm
2007-07-25 11:05                                           ` Andy Parkins
2007-07-25 12:10                                             ` Marius Storm-Olsen
2007-07-25 14:09                                               ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-07-25 20:40                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-26 11:51                                               ` Christian MICHON
2007-07-23  8:31             ` Julian Phillips

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