From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Martin Langhoff" Subject: Re: WIP: asciidoc replacement Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 11:49:56 +1300 Message-ID: <46a038f90710041549v3357a0f8j53b1d2fc24b73210@mail.gmail.com> References: <7vprzwhkgd.fsf@gitster.siamese.dyndns.org> <39F3EE1B-7BD4-4927-AB90-2EB4BBAF05D0@wincent.com> <85abr0y5ua.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <1D18C52E-BB96-49EC-97A9-F802D56CAFF5@wincent.com> <7vd4vwfou9.fsf@gitster.siamese.dyndns.org> <46a038f90710032355t77c38d30p781743a6f248fab5@mail.gmail.com> <85tzp6oavq.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "Junio C Hamano" , "Wincent Colaiuta" , "Johannes Schindelin" , git@vger.kernel.org, msysgit@googlegroups.com To: "David Kastrup" X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Fri Oct 05 00:50:11 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.176.167]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IdZWD-0007SZ-Ex for gcvg-git-2@gmane.org; Fri, 05 Oct 2007 00:50:09 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1759046AbXJDWuA (ORCPT ); Thu, 4 Oct 2007 18:50:00 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1759464AbXJDWt7 (ORCPT ); Thu, 4 Oct 2007 18:49:59 -0400 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.169]:60641 "EHLO ug-out-1314.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756974AbXJDWt7 (ORCPT ); Thu, 4 Oct 2007 18:49:59 -0400 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id z38so429331ugc for ; Thu, 04 Oct 2007 15:49:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=SgsmPzwKXfq2sX62YTlaioUTu3az9Hh/oV5ChF3+8GE=; b=nfWfEES8vF6FaZgP89xb8J6fx51GyW+YN5ZyeueISiA8j+Nz39ONj/NMjcioMqbgf0zDmUT3WmzVGYT+0vtACzFEDvuHXjYpQPnf/0eRr7DH9Az1emd+RZJFB6neNAJtSrKcBxeaxVlWZ0pF1Ntj3PwoHERJMgUIFi5uMNjODUg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=bcqLMnZYHAj/BRANfqTEFGzdEv29QbzWSieo6gPZZQKjwLN0EgPv/OEBmM9w8fOak+2Oi/dUNknX+GBZpejW7ooAq6vZ537HEmRoEUDAJyDGeIxVtVtrl8zktKlAA9uCJau9sszpBCjiHJmaI8g+/TR3hCt4h5c6NzD4E3oWKz0= Received: by 10.66.224.19 with SMTP id w19mr2573864ugg.1191538196345; Thu, 04 Oct 2007 15:49:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.23.15 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Oct 2007 15:49:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <85tzp6oavq.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> Content-Disposition: inline Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: On 10/5/07, David Kastrup wrote: > "Martin Langhoff" writes: > > > With AsciiDoc we've managed to avoid the arcane format, but we are > > still laden with a horrid toolchain. > > Let's put this somewhat into perspective: the toolchain is horrid with > regard to the complexity and documentation Exactly. I'm not complaining about asciidoc itself. But the toolchain is very fragile, and not crossplatform. Git compiles and works on many unixen, win32, and some embedded posixy OSs if IIRC. OTOH asciidoc can be pretty hard to get going even on modern linuxen.The asciidoc toolchain doesn't even work on Debian Sarge, which isn't *that* old, while I'm pretty sure git itself can be built and used on older linuxen. That's where a good old regex-insanity Perl-based parser beats anything else: no dependencies, works everywhere. In that sense, this is close to being a rehash of the "let's use autoconf" argument... cheers martin