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From: "Ping Yin" <pkufranky@gmail.com>
To: "Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: "Johannes Schindelin" <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/5] Make boundary characters for --color-words configurable
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 20:10:11 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46dff0320805050510t3bc5fd0eq44e0d58d1bb57629@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7vprs1ny5e.fsf@gitster.siamese.dyndns.org>

On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 1:00 PM, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:
> "Ping Yin" <pkufranky@gmail.com> writes:
>
>  > For this example,both "/if/while/ (i />/>=/ /1/0/)" and  "/if/while/
>  > (i >//=/ /1/0/)" are fine to me.
>
>  For the particular example, both are Ok, but for this other example:
>
>         -if (i > 1...
>         +if ((i > 1...
>
>  it probably is better to treat each non-word character as a separate
>  token, that is, it would be easier to read if we said "( stayed intact,
>  and another ( was added", instead of saying "( is changed to ((".
>
>  So "a run of punct chars" rule only sometimes produces better output but
>  otherwise worse output, and to make it produce better output consistently,
>  we would need to know the syntax of the target language for tokenization,
>  i.e. ">=" and ">" are comparison operators, while "(" is a token and "(("
>  is better split into two open-paren tokens.
>
>  So as a very longer term subproject, we may want to teach the mechanism
>  language specific tokenization rules, just like we can specify the hunk
>  header pattern via gitattributes(5) to the diff output layer.
>
>  Of course, I do not expect you to do that during this round --- and if we
>  choose to keep the rule simple, I think it is probably better to use
>  one-char-one-token rule for now.
>
>
>  > And when designing, i think it's better to take multi-byte characters
>  > into account. For multi-byte characters (especially CJK), every
>  > character should be considered as a token.
>
>  If we take an idealistic view for the longer term, we should be tokenizing
>  even CJK sensibly, but unlike Occidental scripts, we cannot even use
>  inter-word spacing for tokenizing hint, so unless we are willing to learn
>  morphological analysis (which we are not for now), the best we can do is
>  to use one-char-one-token rule.
>
>         Side Note.  For Japanese we could cheat and often do a slightly
>         better job than simple one-char-one-token without having full
>         morphological analysis by splicing between Kanji and Kana
>         boundaries, but I'd prefer not to go there and keep the rules we
>         would use to the minimum.
>
>  I should stress that I said "character" in the above "punct" and "CJK"
>  discussions, not "byte".
>

The one-char-one-token and multi-char-one-token rules may have
different implementation issues. I think multi-char-one-token rule may
be more representative. So for the current time, i prefer considering
both run of word characters and single non-word character as a token.



-- 
Ping Yin

  reply	other threads:[~2008-05-05 12:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-05-02  3:39 [PATCH] Make words boundary for --color-words configurable Ping Yin
2008-05-02  3:54 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-05-02  4:28   ` Ping Yin
2008-05-02 13:59     ` [PATCH] Make boundary characters " Ping Yin
2008-05-02 14:26       ` Ping Yin
2008-05-02 14:27         ` Ping Yin
2008-05-03 11:57         ` [PATCH v2 0/5] " Ping Yin
2008-05-03 11:57           ` [PATCH v2 1/5] diff.c: Remove code redundancy in diff_words_show Ping Yin
2008-05-03 11:57             ` [PATCH v2 2/5] diff.c: Use show variable name in fn_out_diff_words_aux Ping Yin
2008-05-03 11:57               ` [PATCH v2 3/5] diff.c: Fix --color-words showing trailing deleted words at another line Ping Yin
2008-05-03 11:57                 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] Make boundary characters for --color-words configurable Ping Yin
2008-05-03 11:57                   ` [PATCH v2 5/5] fn_out_diff_words_aux: Handle common diff line more carefully Ping Yin
2008-05-03 18:18                   ` [PATCH v2 4/5] Make boundary characters for --color-words configurable Junio C Hamano
2008-05-03 18:41                     ` Teemu Likonen
2008-05-04  0:32                     ` Ping Yin
2008-05-04  9:44                       ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-05-04 16:35                         ` Ping Yin
2008-05-04 20:16                           ` Junio C Hamano
2008-05-04 20:47                             ` Jakub Narebski
2008-05-04 21:27                               ` Teemu Likonen
2008-05-05 12:14                               ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-05-05  1:40                             ` Ping Yin
2008-05-05  5:00                               ` Junio C Hamano
2008-05-05 12:10                                 ` Ping Yin [this message]
2008-05-06  0:40                                   ` Ping Yin
2008-05-06  8:55                                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-05-07  1:15                                       ` Ping Yin
2008-05-07 11:24                                         ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-05-07 12:19                                           ` Ping Yin
2008-05-07 13:10                                             ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-05-07 14:11                                               ` Ping Yin
2008-05-07 19:13                                           ` Junio C Hamano
2008-05-07 19:33                                             ` Junio C Hamano
2008-05-07 19:45                                             ` Jeff King
2008-05-07 20:02                                               ` Junio C Hamano
2008-05-07 22:04                                                 ` Jeff King
2008-05-08 10:34                                             ` Teemu Likonen
2008-05-10  9:02                                               ` Ping Yin
2008-05-10  9:14                                                 ` Teemu Likonen
2008-05-11 13:16                                                 ` Ping Yin
2008-05-11 13:27                                                   ` Ping Yin
2008-05-11 16:27                                                   ` Junio C Hamano
2008-05-12 16:31                                                     ` Ping Yin
2008-05-12 18:57                                                       ` Jakub Narebski
2008-05-12 19:17                                                         ` Junio C Hamano
2008-05-12 19:57                                                           ` Jakub Narebski
2008-05-13  1:37                                                           ` Ping Yin
2008-05-13  1:42                                                         ` Ping Yin
2008-05-10  8:20                                             ` Ping Yin
2008-05-05 11:51                           ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-05-05 12:02                             ` Ping Yin
2008-05-03 18:01                 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] diff.c: Fix --color-words showing trailing deleted words at another line Junio C Hamano
2008-05-03 12:01               ` [PATCH v2 2/5] diff.c: Use show variable name in fn_out_diff_words_aux Ping Yin
2008-05-03 17:47               ` Junio C Hamano
2008-05-03 18:20             ` [PATCH v2 1/5] diff.c: Remove code redundancy in diff_words_show Junio C Hamano
2008-05-04  4:20           ` [PATCH v3 0/6] --color-words improvement Ping Yin
2008-05-04  4:20             ` [PATCH v3 1/6] diff.c: Remove code redundancy in diff_words_show Ping Yin
2008-05-04  4:20               ` [PATCH v3 2/6] fn_out_diff_words_aux: Use short variable name Ping Yin
2008-05-04  4:20                 ` [PATCH v3 3/6] --color-words: Fix showing trailing deleted words at another line Ping Yin
2008-05-04  4:20                   ` [PATCH v3 4/6] --color-words: Make non-word characters configurable Ping Yin
2008-05-04  4:20                     ` [PATCH v3 5/6] fn_out_diff_words_aux: Handle common diff line more carefully Ping Yin
2008-05-04  4:20                       ` [PATCH v3 6/6] --color-words: Add test t4030 Ping Yin
2008-05-04  9:54                       ` [PATCH v3 5/6] fn_out_diff_words_aux: Handle common diff line more carefully Johannes Schindelin
2008-05-04 16:53                         ` Ping Yin
2008-05-05 12:11                           ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-05-05 14:18                             ` Ping Yin
2008-05-04  6:45                     ` [PATCH v3 4/6] --color-words: Make non-word characters configurable Junio C Hamano
2008-05-04  7:04                       ` Ping Yin
2008-05-04  9:52                   ` [PATCH v3 3/6] --color-words: Fix showing trailing deleted words at another line Johannes Schindelin
2008-05-04 16:48                     ` Ping Yin
2008-05-05 12:10                       ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-05-04  9:47                 ` [PATCH v3 2/6] fn_out_diff_words_aux: Use short variable name Johannes Schindelin
2008-05-04 16:39                   ` Ping Yin
2008-05-05 12:05                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-05-04  9:46               ` [PATCH v3 1/6] diff.c: Remove code redundancy in diff_words_show Johannes Schindelin
2008-05-02 14:36       ` [PATCH] Make boundary characters for --color-words configurable Teemu Likonen
2008-05-03  0:22         ` Ping Yin
2008-05-03 13:22           ` Dirk Süsserott
2008-05-03 13:57             ` Ping Yin
2008-05-03 14:03       ` [PATCH] --color-words: Make the word characters configurable Johannes Schindelin
2008-05-03 14:13         ` Ping Yin
2008-05-03 14:23           ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-05-03 14:43         ` Teemu Likonen
2008-05-04  9:18           ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-05-03 17:43         ` Junio C Hamano
2008-05-04  9:25           ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-05-02  7:45 ` [PATCH] Make words boundary for --color-words configurable Johannes Schindelin
2008-05-02  8:14   ` Teemu Likonen
2008-05-02  9:23     ` Ping Yin
2008-05-02 10:01     ` Teemu Likonen
2008-05-02  9:28   ` Ping Yin
2008-05-03  0:18   ` Jakub Narebski

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