From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Andreas Ericsson Subject: Re: Switching from CVS to GIT Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 21:09:11 +0200 Message-ID: <47126957.1020204@op5.se> References: <1192293466.17584.95.camel@homebase.localnet> <1192381040.4908.57.camel@homebase.localnet> <1773C6F0-87BE-4F3C-B68A-171E1F32E242@lrde.epita.fr> <47125F74.9050600@op5.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Benoit SIGOURE , git list , Eli Zaretskii , Make Windows To: Johannes Schindelin X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Sun Oct 14 21:09:40 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.176.167]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Ih8qB-0001nF-Qn for gcvg-git-2@gmane.org; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 21:09:32 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751712AbXJNTJR (ORCPT ); Sun, 14 Oct 2007 15:09:17 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751673AbXJNTJR (ORCPT ); Sun, 14 Oct 2007 15:09:17 -0400 Received: from mail.op5.se ([193.201.96.20]:56880 "EHLO mail.op5.se" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751537AbXJNTJQ (ORCPT ); Sun, 14 Oct 2007 15:09:16 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.op5.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id D354D173068B; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 21:07:17 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.499 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.499 tagged_above=-10 required=6.6 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.op5.se ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.op5.se [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NBpY9EoqLAwO; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 21:07:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from nox.op5.se (unknown [172.27.77.30]) by mail.op5.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id D82501730656; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 21:07:16 +0200 (CEST) User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (X11/20070727) In-Reply-To: Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: Johannes Schindelin wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun, 14 Oct 2007, Andreas Ericsson wrote: > >> Benoit SIGOURE wrote: >>> Context: GNU make seems to be willing to switch from CVS to ... something >>> else. >>> >>> On Oct 14, 2007, at 6:57 PM, Paul Smith wrote: >>> >>>> [...] the big thing no one else seems to have addressed much in >>>> other discussions I've seen is portability. It LOOKS like there are >>>> native ports of GIT to MINGW, but I have no idea how complete and usable >>>> they are. If someone who has a Windows system could look into that it >>>> would be a big help. >>> I think the best thing to do is to ask directly on the Git ML. >>> >>> Someone already pointed out that he'd like to use Git on Windows but >>> doesn't want to install either Cygwin or MSYS. Is this possible, or >>> will it be possible in the near future? >> It is sort of possible. Without cygwin he'll be in the black for the few >> features that are still implemented as shell-scripts, but perhaps he/she >> will then be inclined to help us migrate those scripts to C builtins. > > Umm. There are quite a few shell scripts still _necessary_ to run git: > git-commit, git-fetch and git-merge being the most prominent ones. The > first two are in the process of being rewritten _right_ _now_, but no > official git release has them yet. > Ah, right. I think of "accepted into git.git" as being released. > And I have to disagree strongly with the "black": In msysGit (which brings > its own minimal version of MSys), it is very smooth. > Oh? I didn't know that. Windows and its unixifying toolboxes is unknown territory to me, as I happily spend all my time on various unices. >>> Is it possible to use one of the various GUIs (git-gui, gitk, qgit) >>> on Windows without requiring a POSIXish shell etc.? >>> >> qgit is possible to use natively, if one installs the qgit4 libraries >> for windows, but it's more of a viewer than an action gui. git-gui and >> gitk are usable if you have the windows TCL port. I haven't tried it, >> but there are installers available, so testing it out (with all >> dependencies) shouldn't take too long. > > FWIW msysGit comes with Tcl. You can run git gui and gitk without any > hassles. > Yes, my phrasing there was a bit obscure. I meant that all dependencies are installed by the installer package. >>> (if Git is available as a library, and if this library works on >>> Windows, it will greatly help truly native Windows ports). >> Yup. I believe the primary reason for libification is to easier support >> both porting and fully-fledged gui's. > > Why? > > I do not see any reason why libification helps the user experience on > Windows. > I was under the impression that the windows port suffers from Windows' lack of a proper fork() and friends and that a proper library would help solving those problems. Perhaps I was misinformed. -- Andreas Ericsson andreas.ericsson@op5.se OP5 AB www.op5.se Tel: +46 8-230225 Fax: +46 8-230231