From: Andreas Ericsson <ae@op5.se>
To: Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>
Cc: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>,
Sebastian Harl <sh@tokkee.org>,
Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
Benoit Sigoure <tsuna@lrde.epita.fr>,
git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: git-stash: RFC: Adopt the default behavior to other commands
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:06:18 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4767EFFA.1070909@op5.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3lk7sovt0.fsf@roke.D-201>
Jakub Narebski wrote:
> Andreas Ericsson <ae@op5.se> writes:
>> Johannes Schindelin wrote:
>>> On Tue, 18 Dec 2007, Andreas Ericsson wrote:
>>>> Johannes Schindelin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In the alternative, you could just scrap all those default
>>>>> actions, showing synopses instead. For all commands, including
>>>>> "git commit", "git log", "git fetch", etc.
>>>> Like we do for the git wrapper, you mean? Yes, that would be one
>>>> solution, although not a very good one for all commands.
>>> Exactly. Not a good one.
>>>
>>>> It's probably not a bad idea for commands where the primary use is
>>>> something else than producing visual output though, such as tag or
>>>> branch, but those handle creation/deletion of stuff, so the default
>>>> action for them is to list stuff of the kind they operate on. I
>>>> fail to see why stash should be any different.
>>> I also fail to see why stash should be any different. And that's why
>>> I expect it to have a default operation, which is -- you guessed it --
>>> "stash the changes!"
>> Actually, I guessed "list the stashes".
>>
>>> If I am not sure what I am about to do, there is -- wonder of wonders --
>>> the "-h" option! And indeed:
>>> $ git stash -h
>>> Usage: /home/gitte/bin/git-stash [ | save | list | show |
>>> apply | clear | create ]
>>> So what exactly was your point again?
>>>
>> My point is that it would be nice if all git commands that actually
>> manipulate objects (create/delete/modify) had a safe default, and
>> that experienced users such as yourself could endure the insufferable
>> agony of retraining your fingers to type five more chars so that
>> people won't have to get bitten by surprises.
>
> Also for "git commit"?
>
git commit has a very safe default; It runs "git status" and exits.
> In my opinion _basic_ usage of git-stash is simply using it with
> one stash only: "git stash" / "git unstash" (i.e. "git stash apply";
> by the way this is one (beside "git view") use case for builtin
> predefined aliases). Using it with multiple stashes (only then
> "git stash list" is needed) is advanced usage; and for advanced
> usage longer form is preferred, I think.
>
Perhaps. I'll stop quibbling about it. I don't care very deeply
about it anyway.
> "git branch", "git log" and "git remote" are horse of differenc color
> because the _cannot_ function without name of branch/tag/remote given,
> so hey provide "list" when no name was given.
>
git stash takes a name too. It's optional though, and has caused any
number of source lines to be rewritten by grumbling authors who just
started to like git a little less because of it (yes, I know that has
been fixed, but it makes me look twice when discussing defaults for
git stash).
--
Andreas Ericsson andreas.ericsson@op5.se
OP5 AB www.op5.se
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-12-18 16:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-12-17 11:03 git-stash: RFC: Adopt the default behavior to other commands Sebastian Harl
2007-12-17 22:32 ` Benoit Sigoure
2007-12-17 23:00 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-12-17 23:32 ` Benoit Sigoure
2007-12-18 0:31 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-12-18 10:59 ` Sebastian Harl
2007-12-18 12:33 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-12-18 14:22 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-12-18 14:47 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-12-18 15:00 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-12-18 15:15 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-12-18 15:28 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-12-18 15:40 ` Jakub Narebski
2007-12-18 16:06 ` Andreas Ericsson [this message]
2007-12-18 16:11 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-12-18 17:40 ` Sergei Organov
2007-12-18 18:03 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-12-18 23:31 ` Martin Langhoff
2007-12-18 15:28 ` Wincent Colaiuta
2007-12-18 15:42 ` Jörg Sommer
2007-12-18 22:13 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-12-18 22:22 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-12-20 21:40 ` しらいしななこ
2007-12-20 22:31 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-12-21 7:59 ` Wincent Colaiuta
2007-12-21 8:40 ` しらいしななこ
2007-12-18 23:32 ` André Goddard Rosa
2007-12-18 23:41 ` Martin Langhoff
2007-12-19 7:33 ` Wincent Colaiuta
2007-12-19 7:46 ` Martin Langhoff
2007-12-19 8:29 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-12-19 12:01 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-12-19 12:07 ` Wincent Colaiuta
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