From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Rogan Dawes Subject: Re: Time to flush Mr. Hammano? Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 15:18:53 +0200 Message-ID: <47949BBD.6060308@dawes.za.net> References: <20070624192215@qkholland.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: gi mailing list To: Quim K Holland X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Mon Jan 21 14:22:09 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.176.167]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JGwbG-0005BG-Sb for gcvg-git-2@gmane.org; Mon, 21 Jan 2008 14:22:07 +0100 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752255AbYAUNVi (ORCPT ); Mon, 21 Jan 2008 08:21:38 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752245AbYAUNVh (ORCPT ); Mon, 21 Jan 2008 08:21:37 -0500 Received: from hapkido.dreamhost.com ([66.33.216.122]:42373 "EHLO hapkido.dreamhost.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751818AbYAUNVh (ORCPT ); Mon, 21 Jan 2008 08:21:37 -0500 Received: from spunkymail-a9.g.dreamhost.com (sd-green-bigip-145.dreamhost.com [208.97.132.145]) by hapkido.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3478E179E90 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2008 05:21:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.201.100] (dsl-146-26-189.telkomadsl.co.za [165.146.26.189]) by spunkymail-a9.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B70821268; Mon, 21 Jan 2008 05:20:03 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) In-Reply-To: <20070624192215@qkholland.gmail.com> Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: Quim K Holland wrote: > "Marco Costalba" wrote: > > Reading mailing list threads it is becoming common these days to hear > about contributors with patches ready to be sent as soon as 1.5.4 is > out. > > Would be a good idea to open a new branch new_stuff as a target for > this pending stuff? > > Back when Mr. Torvalds was still leading the development there was > not this stupid stability freeze and many useful patches were > accepted every day. For the past few months Mr. Hammano has not been > adding much useful code himself, did not join interesting discussions > such as Unicode normalization issues, nor gave much useful comments > on patches. He has mostly been busy rejecting useful patches and > sending not so useful comments. > > Can we vote Mr. Hammano out and ask Mr. Torvalds to come back as the > project leader? I do not mean any disrespect to Mr. Hammano, but > don't people think he outlived his usefulness as the project leader? That's Mr Hamano (one 'm'), and personally, I think that only when you have contributed to this project yourself, would you have a leg to stand on when you criticise him. As an observer, I think that Junio is doing a superb job of managing the sometimes quite torrential flow of patches contributed to git. As Linus himself has often said (Paraphrased, of course): The role of the maintainer is often more to *reject* patches than to accept them, so as to maintain the quality of the code base. Having said that, the amount of *constructive* criticism that accompanies those rejections is amazing. Often I have seen multiple pages of response to a 2 line patch, so that the contributor (and other observers) can better understand the reason for the rejection, and how to construct a better patch that would be accepted. Regards, Rogan