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From: Lea Wiemann <lewiemann@gmail.com>
To: Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>
Cc: Rafael Garcia-Suarez <rgarciasuarez@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, Luben Tuikov <ltuikov@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Avoid errors from git-rev-parse in gitweb blame
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 01:11:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4845CF9F.10604@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200806032224.08714.jnareb@gmail.com>

Jakub Narebski wrote:
> I don't think %parent_commits hash is suitable for caching; it is only
> intermediate step, reducing number of git command calls (and forks) [...]
> 
> ATTENTION! This example shows where caching [parsed] data have problems 
> compared to front-end caching (caching output).

ATTENTION!  Could we please stop having this discussion?!  Your argument 
is completely bogus.  If the parent commit hashes are in cache, it's an 
almost zero-time cache lookup.  The only difference it might make 
compared front-end caching is the CPU time it takes to generate the 
page, and *I want to see benchmarks before I even start thinking about 
CPU*.  Okay?  Good, thanks.

Sorry I'm a little indignant, but you seem to be somehow trying to tell 
me what to implement, and that gets annoying after a while.  I don't 
mind your input, but at some point the discussion just doesn't go any 
further.

> Problems occur when we try to cache page with _streaming_ output, such 
> as blob view, blame view, diff part of commitdiff etc.

We can still stream backend-cache-backed data, though it's a little 
harder.  It's mostly a memory, not a performance issue though -- the 
only point where I think it actually would be performance-relevant is 
blame, and blame doesn't stream anyway (see below).

> By the way, if we agree that version %parent_commits is too intrusive 
> dusring GSoC 2008,

Oh, I don't mind, FTR.  It's not enough lines to matter.

>> 2) Major point: You're still forking a lot.  The Right Thing is to
>> condense everything into a single call
> 
> This is not a good solution for 'blame' view, which is generated "on the 
> fly", by streaming git-blame output via filter.

No, whether you have your "while <$fd>" loop or not doesn't make a 
difference.  Blame first calculates the whole blame and then dumps it 
out in zero-time, unless you use --incremental.  So there's no 
performance difference in getting all blame output and then dumping it 
out vs. reading and outputting it line-by-line.  And regarding memory, 
if your blame output doesn't fit into your RAM, you have different kinds 
of issues.

JFTR, I don't have any opinion about extending the porcelain output of 
git-blame (apart from the fact that happens to not be useful for gitweb 
for the reason I outlined in the previous paragraph).

-- Lea

  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-03 23:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-03 10:46 [PATCH] Avoid errors from git-rev-parse in gitweb blame Rafael Garcia-Suarez
2008-06-03 11:42 ` Lea Wiemann
2008-06-03 11:43 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-06-03 12:03   ` Rafael Garcia-Suarez
2008-06-03 12:45     ` Jakub Narebski
2008-06-03 13:00       ` Rafael Garcia-Suarez
2008-06-03 13:12         ` Jakub Narebski
2008-06-03 13:36           ` Rafael Garcia-Suarez
2008-06-03 14:14             ` Jakub Narebski
2008-06-03 14:40               ` Rafael Garcia-Suarez
2008-06-03 14:56                 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-06-03 15:07                   ` Rafael Garcia-Suarez
2008-06-03 17:50                     ` Jakub Narebski
2008-06-03 21:09                   ` Luben Tuikov
2008-06-03 21:03               ` Luben Tuikov
2008-06-03 20:35         ` Luben Tuikov
2008-06-03 21:31           ` Jakub Narebski
2008-06-04  5:58             ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-04 14:03               ` Jakub Narebski
2008-06-05  6:07                 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-05  6:09                   ` [PATCH 1/2] git-blame: refactor code to emit "porcelain format" output Junio C Hamano
2008-06-06  9:22                     ` Jakub Narebski
2008-06-05  6:09                   ` [PATCH 2/2] blame: show "previous" information in --porcelain/--incremental format Junio C Hamano
2008-06-06  9:27                     ` Jakub Narebski
2008-06-06 15:17                       ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-06 15:44                         ` Jakub Narebski
2008-06-06  0:26                   ` [PATCH] Avoid errors from git-rev-parse in gitweb blame Jakub Narebski
2008-06-04 22:24               ` Luben Tuikov
2008-06-03 14:24       ` Lea Wiemann
2008-06-03 20:24         ` Jakub Narebski
2008-06-03 23:11           ` Lea Wiemann [this message]
2008-06-04  0:11             ` Jakub Narebski
2008-06-04  0:39               ` Lea Wiemann
2008-06-04 12:31                 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-06-08 18:19             ` Lea Wiemann
2008-06-08 20:28               ` Jakub Narebski
2008-06-03 20:18   ` Luben Tuikov
2008-06-03 20:29     ` Jakub Narebski
2008-06-03 21:27       ` Luben Tuikov
2008-06-03 21:34         ` Jakub Narebski

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