From: Rogan Dawes <lists@dawes.za.net>
To: David Jeske <jeske@google.com>
Cc: Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>,
Avery Pennarun <apenwarr@gmail.com>, Nicolas Pitre <nico@cam.org>,
git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: why is git destructive by default? (i suggest it not be!)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:19:07 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4860E63B.6040709@dawes.za.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <28156.2147582465$1214307807@news.gmane.org>
David Jeske wrote:
> -- Jakub Narebski wrote:
>> If they are using '-f', i.e. force, they should know and be sure what
>> they are doing; it is not much different from 'rm -f *'.
>
> Sure, no problem. I don't want the ability to "rm -f *". I'm raising my hand
> and saying "I don't want the power to do these things, so just turn off all the
> git commands that could be destructive and give me an alternate way to do the
> workflows I need to do". Just like a normal user on a unix machine doesn't run
> around with the power to rm -f /etc all the time, even though they may be able
> to su to root.
>
> Let me guess, you're always running euid==0. :)
Do you also ask the gnu coreutils folks to remove the -f option from
their utilities?
There is a basic assumption that folks that are using tools have at
least made an attempt to understand what it is that they are doing,
before e.g. waving a chainsaw around.
One thing that I haven't seen addressed in this thread is the fact that
if you have a dirty working directory, and you "git reset --hard",
whatever was dirty (not yet in the index, or committed) will be blown
away, and no amount of reflog archeology will help you get it back.
Any changes that had been staged in the index WILL exist in the object
directories as dangling objects, and can be retrieved through judicious
use of "git fsck" and "git show", but will certainly be a painful
exercise if there was an extensive set of changes.
Rogan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-06-24 12:21 UTC|newest]
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[not found] <jeske@willow=01l5V7waFEDjChmh>
[not found] ` <willow-jeske-01l5PFjPFEDjCfzf-01l5V7wbFEDjCX7V>
2008-06-24 1:47 ` why is git destructive by default? (i suggest it not be!) David Jeske
2008-06-24 17:11 ` Boaz Harrosh
2008-06-24 17:19 ` Boaz Harrosh
2008-06-24 19:08 ` Jakub Narebski
[not found] ` <willow-jeske-01l5PFjPFEDjCfzf-01l5zrLdFEDjCV3U>
2008-06-24 20:04 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 20:04 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 21:42 ` Brandon Casey
[not found] ` <willow-jeske-01l5PFjPFEDjCfzf-01l63P33FEDjCVQ0>
2008-06-24 22:13 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 22:13 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 22:54 ` Theodore Tso
2008-06-24 23:07 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-25 2:26 ` Theodore Tso
2008-06-25 8:58 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-06-25 9:14 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-26 15:13 ` Brandon Casey
2008-06-24 22:21 ` Steven Walter
2008-06-24 22:21 ` [PATCH] cmd_reset: don't trash uncommitted changes unless told to Steven Walter
2008-06-24 22:31 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-25 9:12 ` Boaz Harrosh
2008-06-25 9:23 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-25 9:59 ` Boaz Harrosh
2008-06-25 10:16 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-06-25 10:24 ` Matthias Kestenholz
2008-06-25 10:46 ` Anton Gladkov
2008-06-25 12:33 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-06-25 14:49 ` [PATCH] cmd_reset: don't trash uncommitted changes unless toldto Craig L. Ching
2008-06-25 15:18 ` Anton Gladkov
2008-06-25 10:41 ` [PATCH] cmd_reset: don't trash uncommitted changes unless told to Johannes Sixt
2008-06-25 12:38 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-06-25 13:51 ` Theodore Tso
2008-06-25 17:22 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-25 19:50 ` Theodore Tso
2008-06-25 20:04 ` Avery Pennarun
2008-06-25 20:11 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-25 20:22 ` Avery Pennarun
2008-06-25 20:48 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-25 20:58 ` Avery Pennarun
2008-06-25 21:24 ` Re* " Junio C Hamano
2008-06-25 21:34 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-26 1:26 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-25 20:37 ` Steven Walter
2008-06-25 20:38 ` Theodore Tso
2008-06-25 20:50 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-25 21:05 ` Theodore Tso
2008-06-25 21:35 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-26 5:16 ` Junio C Hamano
[not found] ` <20080627193325.6117@nanako3.lavabit.com>
2008-06-27 22:11 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-28 0:06 ` しらいしななこ
2008-06-28 22:32 ` しらいしななこ
2008-06-29 8:56 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-25 22:44 ` Petr Baudis
2008-06-26 1:59 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-06-25 20:09 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-26 11:55 ` Björn Steinbrink
2008-06-26 12:07 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-06-26 12:35 ` Björn Steinbrink
2008-06-26 15:55 ` Avery Pennarun
2008-06-26 17:49 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-06-26 12:01 ` Matthieu Moy
2008-06-26 12:09 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-06-26 12:23 ` David Kastrup
2008-06-25 13:19 ` Ian Hilt
2008-06-26 5:31 ` Andreas Ericsson
2008-06-26 16:15 ` Jon Loeliger
2008-06-25 5:29 ` Johannes Gilger
2008-06-25 8:57 ` why is git destructive by default? (i suggest it not be!) Boaz Harrosh
2008-06-24 18:18 ` Brandon Casey
2008-06-24 1:47 ` David Jeske
[not found] ` <willow-jeske-01l5PFjPFEDjCfzf-01l5V7wbFEDjCX7V@videotron.ca>
[not found] ` <willow-jeske-01l5cKsCFEDjC=91MX@videotron.ca>
2008-06-24 2:17 ` Nicolas Pitre
[not found] ` <willow-jeske-01l5PFjPFEDjCfzf-01l5ciVtFEDjCaD9>
2008-06-24 3:18 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 8:14 ` Lea Wiemann
2008-06-24 3:18 ` David Jeske
[not found] ` <willow-jeske-01l5PFjPFEDjCfzf-01l5ciVtFEDjCaD9@videotron.ca>
[not found] ` <willow-jeske-01l5e9cgFEDjCh3F@videotron.ca>
2008-06-24 4:03 ` Nicolas Pitre
[not found] ` <willow-jeske-01l5PFjPFEDjCfzf-01l5fAcTFEDjCWA4>
2008-06-24 4:40 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 5:24 ` Jan Krüger
2008-06-24 4:40 ` David Jeske
[not found] ` <1978205964779154253@unknownmsgid>
2008-06-24 5:20 ` Avery Pennarun
[not found] ` <willow-jeske-01l5PFjPFEDjCfzf-01l5gtQ7FEDjCWCC>
2008-06-24 6:35 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 6:35 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 7:24 ` Jeff King
[not found] ` <willow-jeske-01l5PFjPFEDjCfzf-01l5jmMuFEDjChvB>
2008-06-24 7:31 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 7:31 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 8:16 ` Jeff King
[not found] ` <willow-jeske-01l5PFjPFEDjCfzf-01l5kv6TFEDjCj8S>
2008-06-24 8:30 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 9:39 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-06-24 8:30 ` David Jeske
[not found] ` <willow-jeske-01l5PFjPFEDjCfzf-01l5kv6TFEDjCj8S@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>
[not found] ` <willow-jeske-01l5lTEoFEDjCVta@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>
2008-06-24 10:01 ` Fedor Sergeev
2008-06-24 10:24 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 13:13 ` Theodore Tso
2008-06-24 7:54 ` Jakub Narebski
[not found] ` <willow-jeske-01l5PFjPFEDjCfzf-01l5kQf4FEDjCXUa>
2008-06-24 8:08 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 11:22 ` Jakub Narebski
[not found] ` <willow-jeske-01l5PFjPFEDjCfzf-01l5p7eVFEDjCZRD>
2008-06-24 11:29 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 12:21 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-06-24 11:29 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 12:19 ` Rogan Dawes [this message]
2008-06-24 12:35 ` Johannes Gilger
2008-06-24 12:46 ` Rogan Dawes
2008-06-24 12:13 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-06-24 8:08 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 4:59 Teemu Likonen
[not found] ` <e80d075a0806232201o3933d154he2b570986604c30a@mail.gmail.com>
2008-06-24 5:43 ` Teemu Likonen
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2008-06-24 8:35 Björn Steinbrink
[not found] <willow-jeske-01l5oEsvFEDjCjRW>
[not found] ` <willow-jeske-01l5PFjPFEDjCfzf-01l5oEswFEDjCZBN>
2008-06-24 10:42 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 15:29 ` Brandon Casey
[not found] ` <willow-jeske-01l5PFjPFEDjCfzf-01l5uqS9FEDjCcuF>
2008-06-24 16:41 ` David Jeske
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2008-06-24 12:21 Olivier Galibert
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