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From: Lea Wiemann <lewiemann@gmail.com>
To: Petr Baudis <pasky@suse.cz>
Cc: Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, John Hawley <warthog19@eaglescrag.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] add new Git::Repo API
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:09:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4880DC6C.7090708@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080718164828.GT10151@machine.or.cz>

Petr Baudis wrote:
> [$repo->_cmd_output:]
> 
> we _need_ such a wrapper _publically_, because it tends to be
> actually the main use-case of Git.pm,

Well, sure, I happen to not be convinced, but it *may* be useful.  The
point I'm trying to make is that it's not part of what I'm writing here.

> as part of your gitweb migration to Git::Repo, you will temporarily
> introduce calls to _cmd_output(), the "internal" API. :-) Sure, it's
> only temporary, but many won't have the luxury to adjust the Git::Repo
> API to provide all the operations they need, and ultimately they will
> need to defer to the pipe interface.

Yup, and I'm actually fine with that.  (I'll probably alias _cmd_output
to cmd_output in gitweb, just to make it clear that it is, for the
purpose of gitweb, a *supported* mode of operation.)  If the
Git::Repo::_cmd_output API goes away, you'll have to insert a few lines
of code in gitweb, but that's it.  Really, no big deal.

Also, gitweb isn't using cmd_output because it needs a pipe interface,
but because it needs a caching layer in between -- most applications
would do just fine with open calls.

> As I said, majority of Git API usage is actually the pipe API. So we
> should figure out how to provide it. I agree that it's not immediately
> within your scope, but you are introducing new Perl API and this just
> needs to be embedded somewhere there consistently.

Sure, but pleeeease not as part of this patch series! :-)  Look, our
conversation is going something like this:

Lea: Here's a Perl API that fell out of my gitweb development for free.
Petr: I want a pony with the API!
Lea: But I don't have a pony.  Can we please just go with the Perl API
as a start, even if I don't supply ponies with it?

(Cf. the very cute <http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?IwantaPony>.)

>> If you're getting a SHA1 through the user-interface, check its existence
>> with get_sha1 before passing it to the constructor.
> 
> But that's an expensive operation, you need extra Git exec for this,

For the gazillionth time in this thread, there is no extra exec.  It's a
write to a bidirectional cat-file --batch-check pipe.  It's not
expensive.  Really. ;-)

>> I have resolving code in gitweb's git_get_sha1_or_die
> 
> The thing that concerns me about this is that this might show that your
> approach to error handling is not flexible enough for some real-world
> usage and this might be a design mistake - is that not so?

I don't think so; the error handling is fine.  Given that I want
fine-granular error reporting for gitweb, there *needs* to be a
git_get_sha1_or_die function; you can't move that into the API.

-- Lea

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-07-18 18:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-11  1:06 [PATCH 0/3] Git::Repo API and gitweb caching Lea Wiemann
2008-07-11  1:10 ` [PATCH 1/3 v9] gitweb: add test suite with Test::WWW::Mechanize::CGI Lea Wiemann
2008-07-11  1:11 ` [PATCH 2/3] add new Git::Repo API Lea Wiemann
2008-07-13 21:38   ` Junio C Hamano
2008-07-14  1:04     ` Lea Wiemann
2008-07-13 23:28   ` Jakub Narebski
2008-07-14  2:29     ` Lea Wiemann
2008-07-14  1:40   ` Petr Baudis
2008-07-14 22:19     ` Lea Wiemann
2008-07-18 16:48       ` Petr Baudis
2008-07-18 17:05         ` Jakub Narebski
2008-07-18 17:17           ` Petr Baudis
2008-07-18 18:09         ` Lea Wiemann [this message]
2008-07-18 18:19           ` Petr Baudis
2008-07-18 18:23           ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-07-19 20:54         ` Statictics on Git.pm usage in git commands (was: [PATCH 2/3] add new Git::Repo API) Jakub Narebski
2008-07-19 21:14           ` Petr Baudis
2008-07-20  0:16             ` Jakub Narebski
2008-07-20 21:38               ` Petr Baudis
2008-07-20 10:38           ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-07-20 10:49             ` Petr Baudis
2008-07-20 12:33               ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-07-20 12:58                 ` Petr Baudis
2008-07-20 13:21                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-07-14 23:41     ` [PATCH 2/3] add new Git::Repo API Jakub Narebski
2008-07-15  0:11       ` Lea Wiemann
2008-07-18 16:54       ` Petr Baudis
2008-07-19  0:03         ` Jakub Narebski
2008-07-19 19:07         ` Jakub Narebski
2008-07-20 21:36           ` Petr Baudis
2008-07-20 21:50             ` Jakub Narebski
2008-07-16 18:21   ` Jakub Narebski
2008-07-16 20:32     ` Lea Wiemann
2008-07-17 23:49       ` Jakub Narebski
2008-07-18 13:40         ` Lea Wiemann
2008-07-18 15:35           ` Jakub Narebski
2008-07-18 16:51             ` Lea Wiemann
2008-07-11  1:11 ` [PATCH 3/3] gitweb: use new Git::Repo API, and add optional caching Lea Wiemann
2008-07-14 21:23   ` Jakub Narebski
2008-07-14 23:03     ` Lea Wiemann
2008-07-14 23:14       ` Jakub Narebski
2008-07-14 23:56         ` Lea Wiemann
2008-07-15  0:52           ` Jakub Narebski
2008-07-15  1:16             ` Lea Wiemann
2008-07-15  1:28               ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-07-15  1:44                 ` J.H.
2008-07-15  1:50                 ` Lea Wiemann
2008-07-15  2:03                   ` J.H.
2008-07-11  1:21 ` [PATCH 0/3] Git::Repo API and gitweb caching Johannes Schindelin
2008-07-11  9:33 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-07-11 14:07   ` Lea Wiemann
2008-07-11 16:27     ` Abhijit Menon-Sen
2008-07-12 15:08       ` Jakub Narebski
2008-07-19  5:35 ` Lea Wiemann
2008-08-18 19:34 ` Lea Wiemann
2008-08-18 19:39   ` [PATCH 1/3 v10] gitweb: add test suite with Test::WWW::Mechanize::CGI Lea Wiemann
2008-08-19  1:17     ` Junio C Hamano
2008-08-19 14:37       ` Lea Wiemann
2008-08-18 19:39   ` [PATCH 2/3 v2] add new Perl API: Git::Repo, Git::Commit, Git::Tag, and Git::RepoRoot Lea Wiemann
2008-08-19  1:32     ` Junio C Hamano
2008-08-19 15:06       ` Lea Wiemann
2008-08-19 13:51     ` Lea Wiemann
2008-08-18 19:39   ` [PATCH 3/3 v2] gitweb: use new Git::Repo API, and add optional caching Lea Wiemann

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