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From: Rogan Dawes <lists@dawes.za.net>
To: "Shawn O. Pearce" <spearce@spearce.org>
Cc: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 2/2] Add Git-aware CGI for Git-aware smart HTTP transport
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 18:18:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48972BEC.1060105@dawes.za.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080804155956.GF27666@spearce.org>

Shawn O. Pearce wrote:
> Rogan Dawes <lists@dawes.za.net> wrote:
>> Shawn O. Pearce wrote:
>>> Currently git-http-backend requests no caching for info/refs [...]
>> Fair enough, but what about the quote from RFC2616 that I posted in  
>> rebuttal to Dscho?
>>
>>> 13.10 Invalidation After Updates or Deletions
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>> Some HTTP methods MUST cause a cache to invalidate an entity. This is
>>> either the entity referred to by the Request-URI, or by the Location
>>> or Content-Location headers (if present). These methods are:
>>>
>>>       - PUT
>>>       - DELETE
>>>       - POST
>> This doesn't seem negotiable to me.
> 
> Its not negotiable.  POST requires no caching.  End of discussion.

Aha. So now I see the objective. I had misunderstood the intention to be 
to *allow* caching of POST'ed resources.

>> For those resources that are expected to be cacheable, the request  
>> should be made using a GET.
> 
> That's exactly what we are doing.  Where caching is reasonable we are
> using a GET request.  Where caching cannot be performed as the server
> state is changing (e.g. actually updating refs) we are using POST.
> That is entirely within the guidelines of the RFC.
> 
> However we are "abusing" POST for "POST /info/refs" to detect a
> Git-aware HTTP server.  Sending POST to a static resource should
> always fail.

Right. Either with a "405 Method not supported", or a "404 Not found". 
as I discovered.

>>> Because git-http-backend emulates a dumb server there is a command
>>> dispatch table based upon the URL submitted.  Thus we already have
>>> the command dispatch behavior implemented in the URL and doing it
>>> in the POST body would only complicate the code further.
>> Not by a huge amount, surely?
>>
>> if (method == "GET") command = ...
>> else if (method == "POST") command = ...
>> dispatch(command);
> 
> Well, true, we could do that.  But then we have to break the
> command name out of the input stream.  In some cases we may just be
> exec'ing another Git process and letting it handle the input stream.
> Shoving the command name into the start of it just makes it that
> much harder to parse out.

Fair enough. I had not thought about other uses for the input stream.

> One of the problems with these RPC-in-HTTP systems is always the
> fact that the true nature of the action isn't visible in the method
> and URL, causing servers and proxies to have to parse the stream to
> implement firewall rules.  Or to provide access control.  I'm trying
> to reuse as much of the access control support as possible from the
> HTTP server and put as little of it as possible into the backend CGI.
> 
> Since the backend CGI is based upon git-receive-pack itself admins
> can use the standard pre-receive/update hook pair to manage branch
> level security in a repository, while gross-level read/write can
> be done in the server.

Works for me!

Thanks for doing all the hard thinking for this feature :-)

Rogan

  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-04 16:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-01 21:50 More on git over HTTP POST H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-02 20:57 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-02 21:00   ` Daniel Stenberg
2008-08-02 21:08     ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-02 21:23       ` Petr Baudis
2008-08-02 21:32         ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-03  2:56   ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-03  3:27     ` Junio C Hamano
2008-08-03  3:31       ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-03  3:47       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-03  4:10         ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-03  8:10           ` david
2008-08-03 11:42             ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-03 11:29           ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-03  3:51     ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-03  4:12       ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-03 11:31         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-03  4:01     ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-03  6:43     ` Mike Hommey
2008-08-03  7:25     ` [RFC 1/2] Add backdoor options to receive-pack for use in Git-aware CGI Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-03  7:25       ` [RFC 2/2] Add Git-aware CGI for Git-aware smart HTTP transport Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-03 11:38         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-03 21:25           ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-03 22:16         ` Junio C Hamano
2008-08-04  3:59           ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-04  9:53             ` Rogan Dawes
2008-08-04 10:08               ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-08-04 10:14                 ` Rogan Dawes
2008-08-04 10:26                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-08-04 14:48               ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-04 15:45                 ` Rogan Dawes
2008-08-04 15:59                   ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-04 16:18                     ` Rogan Dawes [this message]
2008-08-05  1:03                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-05  1:24                   ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-05  1:35                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-05  1:57                       ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-05  2:02                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-13  1:56                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-13  2:37                             ` Shawn O. Pearce

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