From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Lea Wiemann Subject: Re: Summer of Code 2008 Midterm Summary Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:25:25 +0200 Message-ID: <48A1AB65.2080809@gmail.com> References: <20080726232743.GA16870@spearce.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: git@vger.kernel.org To: "Shawn O. Pearce" X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Tue Aug 12 17:27:46 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.176.167]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KSvmY-0005vn-D5 for gcvg-git-2@gmane.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:27:34 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752980AbYHLPZ6 (ORCPT ); Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:25:58 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753331AbYHLPZ4 (ORCPT ); Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:25:56 -0400 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.157]:49282 "EHLO fg-out-1718.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754673AbYHLPZz (ORCPT ); Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:25:55 -0400 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 19so1374916fgg.17 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 08:25:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:from; bh=mq2Ik7qfQVsu17IU/cwhnpbTZWAxmd3eU36GhNHoqX4=; b=rRomfj73vulIkF7XXputYnXkTnXnl1cn08/dT/y+QHbhjACCEbMpK7AdFSdd6SifuR 8XA/YmI0PbJVv/IFambpESxLkY4KDGMrvgjfM7wE0IX6Ls93v1VzixwMB+PiOWGwXy8B CT27jH9QRbMUDSkr49cMtCWA2jSqBseJBkm2Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; b=v6nimtFEVvix8v+YWrze19hFknazLl06pk+7vDIRsDp2cJxh8eDBMigpbIrXoHft+a NW5iLHDi4vSWaK8DwjpP9XdmpWz5PqyBrrrjragELZyzp8j3xqdxrMgCXDOykfeTKYHa tIyS88BkPTUCLZa+j+3tASakP4VKTFuRPSJ5A= Received: by 10.86.27.19 with SMTP id a19mr10481140fga.56.1218554753606; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 08:25:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?172.16.30.128? ( [91.33.192.246]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l12sm4181973fgb.6.2008.08.12.08.25.51 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 12 Aug 2008 08:25:52 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.16) Gecko/20080707 Thunderbird/2.0.0.16 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 In-Reply-To: <20080726232743.GA16870@spearce.org> Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: I know I'm 2 weeks late ;-), but here are some comments (I'm a GSoC student working on gitweb caching): Shawn O. Pearce wrote: > Q: How much time have you spent per week interacting with your mentor > > All of our students (except 1) said 0-5 hours per week [...]. > Nearly all of the mentors on the other hand chose 6-10 hours Maybe mentors tended to count public interaction (on the list), and students tended not to (or to underestimate how long it takes to write email). > In terms of community building this question's answers seem to > suggest we need to try harder to make our students included, That could include making sure that all students are comfortable with IRC (which I've found very helpful), and discouraging taking discussion off the main list (like it happened with GitTorrent). > Q: Do you feel that you are on track to complete your project? > > I'm not sure if this is good or bad. 3 students (50%!) are > ahead of schedule, 1 is on schedule, and 2 are behind. I think it's actually fine, since this is mostly a function of how optimistic your initial plan was. I picked "ahead" because I got through faster than I originally estimated, but it simply means I can implement some 'optional' features. > [Since 3 students are ahead] I wonder if as mentors we didn't > demand enough of our students? I'd guess the opposite is true -- demanding more (as long as you don't hit the 'overwhelm' effect), if anything, tends to make me stay on track better. E.g. last year I was 'behind schedule', and part of the reason was that I had to balance GSoC and life and my mentor didn't kick my butt quite hard enough. ;-) -- Lea